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Old February 20th, 2017, 02:06 AM   #31
 
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I see a number of you who speak of a better balanced revolver with the SA and I guess that's something I'll have to experience for myself by handling a few at the LGS.

Re Shady Slim's comment above (and again, not a question of doubt, but I have literally have zero experience with SA revolvers), can't I just get that same level of accuracy by firing my DA revolver in SA mode?

Either way, the depth of fondness that you SA enthusiasts have for your wheel guns has me very interested in learning more.

Thank you all for the feedback.
Of course you can get the same level of accuracy from shooting a DA in SA mode. The problem I described is a characteristic of how I shoot I guess. IF I take the same time to shoot my DA guns in SA mode, I could do just as well perhaps but it seems that I rush the shots in DA mode thus making my shots less accurate.

Perhaps the single action cowboy guns DO have a little better geometry which does make them more accurate. I have never heard of any scientific evidence of this at all.

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I've always heard that the SA platform is more difficult to master for accuracy because of the longer time it takes for the hammer to fall versus a DA. I think our personal preferences have less to do with accuracy and more with what tickles our fancy. If you like the looks, feel and historical connection of a SA revolver you'll tend to shoot them more and the more you shoot them the better you get. You savor the slower pace, working up pet loads, challenging your skills. Someone else takes a fancy to DA revolvers early on and gets into shooting games like silhouette, bowling pin matches, or IDPA and loves the DA platform.

I'm a pretty mediocre shot with whatever I'm shooting so I like everything (I even own a few polymer framed pistols - gasp!) I miss just as well with a SA as I do a DA so it's all good to me. My targets may look like I was patterning a shotgun but I still have fun, SA or DA or a semi-auto.
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Single action is the essence of shooting in my book. There are a few people out there that are quicker with a SA than most with a DA.
The most fun I have had is a Black Hawk 45LC with cowboy loads, but a single six or Bearcat is not far behind.
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My most loved is a 1970 vintage 357 magnum Blackhawk. I was raised in the late 50's , and all through the 1960's and TV westerns were all the rage...I loved them all and I watched them all and reruns. In my mind there was no other handgun than a single action revolver , I had to have one. When I reached the legal age of 21 I saw the adjustable sighted Ruger in a dealers case and bought it. In 1971 Dirty Harry came out , the dealer said he couldn't give away single actions in 357, 44 magnum DA's were hot, he let me have the SA for the $75.00 cash money I had in mu jeans . When I met my future wife in 1972 we would go shooting with it. I thought, hey if she likes to go shooting with me , she's a keeper and we married in 1973.
I was a reloader and shot the Blackhawk a lot. Until 1995 , it was stolen. I missed that gun more than anything and wished I had it back . Every year or so I would call police dept and update my contact info.
Then, on 10-6-2015 I get a call , they have recovered my Blackhawk from a pawnshop in Kingman , Arizona. It was stolen in Baton Rouge , La. , gone for 20 years and returned in excellent shape. No rust, no abuse and when I took it to the range the sights were still dead on for my eyes. The officer who filed the original stolen report was the officer who returned it to me....he remembered the case !
My favorite is this nothing special old Blackhawk and I am so glad I have it back.
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The difference between SA and DA action revolvers is in the grip design for one thing. When shooting a SA you want to let the gun rock in your hand (hence the grip design) and then drop back to sight and target. Your hand and arm absorbs less recoil this way and you acquire the target a bit faster than a DA or semi-auto pistol. Eagle
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My most loved is a 1970 vintage 357 magnum Blackhawk. I was raised in the late 50's , and all through the 1960's and TV westerns were all the rage...I loved them all and I watched them all and reruns. In my mind there was no other handgun than a single action revolver , I had to have one. When I reached the legal age of 21 I saw the adjustable sighted Ruger in a dealers case and bought it. In 1971 Dirty Harry came out , the dealer said he couldn't give away single actions in 357, 44 magnum DA's were hot, he let me have the SA for the $75.00 cash money I had in mu jeans . When I met my future wife in 1972 we would go shooting with it. I thought, hey if she likes to go shooting with me , she's a keeper and we married in 1973.
I was a reloader and shot the Blackhawk a lot. Until 1995 , it was stolen. I missed that gun more than anything and wished I had it back . Every year or so I would call police dept and update my contact info.
Then, on 10-6-2015 I get a call , they have recovered my Blackhawk from a pawnshop in Kingman , Arizona. It was stolen in Baton Rouge , La. , gone for 20 years and returned in excellent shape. No rust, no abuse and when I took it to the range the sights were still dead on for my eyes. The officer who filed the original stolen report was the officer who returned it to me....he remembered the case !
My favorite is this nothing special old Blackhawk and I am so glad I have it back.
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Good for you! You got your 3 screw Ruger Blackhawk back and a wife with your same passions. Best friends for ever
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Have never owned a single action....enjoy shooting my DA Security Six in SA mode...then again I truly enjoy shooting my DAO SP101 by staging the hammer. This was after the trigger
and hammer spring replacement of course.
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Believe it or not I tend to lean in the direction of double action revolvers because it seems to me that the lock time is faster than with SA revolvers, and I'm much more accurate for that reason.

YMMV. I'm just saying what works for me.

That said my favorite revolver is my Ruger Bearcat. No shooter's life is compete without a Bearcat, and some .22 Shorts to shoot at a tin can.
A trick to increase lock time on Blackhawks and Super Blackhawks is to swap out the hammer springs with Ruger Old Army hammer springs. Theyre a little heavier.

My Super has a ROA spring.

I've got a mix of single-actions and double actions. When shooting for accuracy, i shoot my DAs in SA mode.

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We got a Single Six near the end of the year last year.
It went back to Ruger and have had only 1 session with it .
Have to find out what ammo it likes all over again.
Do like shooting it Allot.
But, the 44 Magnum Vaquero is the one I like shooting more than Anything We have.
I don't reload so we have to buy all the ammo for it and it is Costly.
Single Actions to me are nothing but Prime Time Quality Shooting.
The Vaquero has fixed sights Ain't nothing about it makes it a Target Pistol.
It does hit where you point it.
I don't have the target for the last time I shot it. End of the year Hurricane Thunderstorm destroyed it.
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My most loved is a 1970 vintage 357 magnum Blackhawk. I was raised in the late 50's , and all through the 1960's and TV westerns were all the rage...I loved them all and I watched them all and reruns. In my mind there was no other handgun than a single action revolver , I had to have one. When I reached the legal age of 21 I saw the adjustable sighted Ruger in a dealers case and bought it. In 1971 Dirty Harry came out , the dealer said he couldn't give away single actions in 357, 44 magnum DA's were hot, he let me have the SA for the $75.00 cash money I had in mu jeans . When I met my future wife in 1972 we would go shooting with it. I thought, hey if she likes to go shooting with me , she's a keeper and we married in 1973.
I was a reloader and shot the Blackhawk a lot. Until 1995 , it was stolen. I missed that gun more than anything and wished I had it back . Every year or so I would call police dept and update my contact info.
Then, on 10-6-2015 I get a call , they have recovered my Blackhawk from a pawnshop in Kingman , Arizona. It was stolen in Baton Rouge , La. , gone for 20 years and returned in excellent shape. No rust, no abuse and when I took it to the range the sights were still dead on for my eyes. The officer who filed the original stolen report was the officer who returned it to me....he remembered the case !
My favorite is this nothing special old Blackhawk and I am so glad I have it back.
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Love your post! Congrats on the return!
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When shooting for accuracy, i shoot my DAs in SA mode.
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Same here. I use my left thumb to cock the hammer while on target.
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Single or Double Action? Why You Love Yours.

lots of really nice posts here. my very random single action comments: im just a plinker but really love all my ruger s.a.: 45lc/acp, 357/38/9, 22wmr/lr; blackhawk, vaquero, single six, bearcat. my favorite is a 5.5" single six carried with an aftermarket 8 shot 22wmr cylinder, by story. it is my ultra accurate range toy, "just one" survival piece, trunk gun, etc. i like the heft, deliberate pace and sounds of the s.a. while my s.s. is my always piece, there is nothing like the feel and sound of a handful of honking big 45lc rounds as you load a blackhawk. s.a. fly under the radar in unfree states. i feel about s.a. the same way as obiwan kenobi described a light saber to young luke skywalker: not as random or clumsy as a blaster, an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.


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lots of really nice posts here. my very random single action comments: im just a plinker but really love all my ruger s.a.: 45lc/acp, 357/38/9, 22wmr/lr; blackhawk, vaquero, single six, bearcat. my favorite is a 5.5" single six carried with an aftermarket 8 shot 22wmr cylinder, by story. it is my ultra accurate range toy, "just one" survival piece, trunk gun, etc. i like the heft, deliberate pace and sounds of the s.a. while my s.s. is my always piece, there is nothing like the feel and sound of a handful of honking big 45lc rounds as you load a blackhawk. s.a. fly under the radar in unfree states. i feel about s.a. the same way as obiwan kenobi described a light saber to young luke skywalker: not as random or clumsy as a blaster, an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.


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jstert - I love how you described loading the individual rounds into the cylinders with your "handful of honking big 45's as you load a Blackhawk". I mentioned this in one of these posts on this thread about there is nothing like sliding each round past the gate and feeling the round find its way to the bottom of the stop.

I too, find a SA revolver an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.

You don't see thugs holding a fine SA revolver sideways do ya? Course not, It is like a manual transmission car, they can't steal them cause they can't drive them. Same with a fine SA. "Man . . .this **** don't work right man" said one thug to the next.
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jstert - I love how you described loading the individual rounds into the cylinders with your "handful of honking big 45's as you load a Blackhawk". I mentioned this in one of these posts on this thread about there is nothing like sliding each round past the gate and feeling the round find its way to the bottom of the stop.



I too, find a SA revolver an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.



You don't see thugs holding a fine SA revolver sideways do ya? Course not, It is like a manual transmission car, they can't steal them cause they can't drive them. Same with a fine SA. "Man . . .this **** don't work right man" said one thug to the next.


thanks and very well said! im not a cowboy action shooter, and all my grandparents immigrated to the east coast well after the golden age of the west, but i find that there is "something about" loading a handful of 45lc into a blackhawk. no polymer wonder nine for me. i never ever wish to be in another confrontation (been there, defused that with a simple 38 snubbie 30 years ago) but if i must i would want a 45lc staring at my tormenters.


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