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Old February 16th, 2017, 07:29 PM   #1
 
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I have an Auto Ordnance 1911A1 .45 Gov't (I know, not a high end 1911 but it is pretty accurate and reliable if I use stout 230 gr FMJ or defensive ammo like Fed Hydra Shok or HSTs). I've had it for about 20 years and have had problems finding magazines that work well with it. Most don't drop freely out when the slide is locked back. The cheap mags that came with it were just cheap junk. So maybe 15 years ago I bought a Chip McCormick Shooting Star mag that worked great. I wanted to get a couple more. I recently bought a Chip McCormick Power Mag and it wouldn't drop free, but it fed the ammo well. A friend told me to just get the Wilson Combat 47D mags. He said they were among the best mags available. I bought 2 and they were - - horrible. Neither would drop free and one took lots of effort to insert. I had to pry it out of the magazine well. They both seemed over-sized. Then I heard that the Tripp magazines were the best. So I bought one of those and it too wouldn't drop free. I was beginning to think my pistol had some major issue. How could all these highly rated magazine not positively eject/drop? Then, a fellow shooter had me try his Kimber KimPro magazine. It sprang forth and dropped out of the mag well like it was catapulted. It inserted easily, locked in place, held the slide back and didn't cause any jams. So I bought two and they worked exactly the same - perfectly.

I wasn't aware that there would be so much difference in these highly respected magazines with such good reputations. Has anyone else had such trouble finding suitable magazines for their 1911s? I had a 1911 gunsmith look my .45 over and he did a nice trigger job on it but could not find any issues with it that would explain my magazine issues.

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Old February 16th, 2017, 11:00 PM   #2
 
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Hmm, ive used wilson, tripp and checkmates. Never had any problem. So is your main concern the mags dropping free? Can we see the inside of your frame the two staking points on the plunger tube, do they flair out causing any obstruction against the magazines? Did your gunsmith look at your mag catch? How about inserting your mags with just the frame. Can you pin point any binding? Is the slot in the trigger bow bent?

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I didn't get into too many details with him, but my gunsmith sent back the Wilson mags. I showed him the problem and gave him the pistol and the mags to figure out what the issue is. He did say something about the trigger bow being slightly bent but fixing that didn't help enough. When we figured out the Kimber mags worked so well, he just suggested using their mags. It seems the other mags are getting hung up at the top of the grip frame, the last inch or so. I did notice that for some of the other mags (the McCormick Power mag and the Tripp) that if I push the mag release and pull back on the trigger at the same time, they will drop free. When I push the mag release with the Power Mag it does drop down about 1/4" and wants to come out. Both the Tripp and the McCormick Power Mags feed very well and I will use them as range mags. The Wilson's were just useless to me. The Kimbers will be the ones I use with the defensive rounds.

I was just wondering if anyone else was noticing such differences in the sizes of these highly respected mags? I was really disappointed with how tight the Wilson mags were. So was the gunsmith, which is why he sent them back to Brownells for me and ordered me the Kimbers (which is what he also uses in his race gun.)
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I have couple RIA 1911s and have Colt, Remington, Wilson and Mecgar and they all run well and drop free.
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The problem is with your pistol, not the magazines. I have used Wilson Combat and Chip McCormick magazines in multiple 1911s without problems. Now and again, a particular 1911 might not run well with a particular brand of magazine, but the issue is usually feeding. If your pistol has failed to work properly with multiple different magazines from a number of well-regarded manufacturers, there is something wrong with it. Might be worth trying a swap of the magazine latch.

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I have 7 of the Wilson 47D mags for my SR-1911 and use all of them when I'm at the range. Have never had any problem with them our my factory mags. in insertion, firing or ejection.
As others have posted it seems to be an internal problem. The spec's for 1911's are well proven to work with many manufacture's aftermarket parts which make them such great weapons to own.

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For what it's worth, take one of your "non-working-correctly" mags and load it full minus one round. Then try inserting it into the well. If it slides in and out effortlessly, that would be my guess as to your problem. You are overloading the mag

What I found was that I can load an extra round in the mag but it tends to spread the top opening just enough that the mags don't move freely but will go in and out of the mag well with some pressure assistance from my hand. To remove the mags I have to pry down on the small tang at the front base of the mags.

When I loaded one less round in each of the culprit mags, every one worked as expected.

Hope this made sense.
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For what it's worth, take one of your "non-working-correctly" mags and load it full minus one round. Then try inserting it into the well. If it slides in and out effortlessly, that would be my guess as to your problem. You are overloading the mag

What I found was that I can load an extra round in the mag but it tends to spread the top opening just enough that the mags don't move freely but will go in and out of the mag well with some pressure assistance from my hand. To remove the mags I have to pry down on the small tang at the front base of the mags.

When I loaded one less round in each of the culprit mags, every one worked as expected.

Hope this made sense.
I'M not overloading the mag as it happens with empty mags, partially full and full mags. I'm just curious why some mags work so effortlessly and others seem so tight? There are obviously some differences in the dimensions of the various mags. Even between the two Wilson mags there were difference as one was much tighter than the other and even had trouble fully seating while the other mags were fine in that regard. The Kimber KimPro mags works effortlessly, so I'll just stick with them. Maybe the mag well on my 1911 is a little tight. I was just wondering if other folks were noticing a similar problem and the answer is no.
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I use the Wilson Combat Elite Tactical 8 Rd Magazine ETM 500 as my primary magazine in my Taurus PT1911 and Chip McCormick Shooting Star magazines for range work. Never had a problem with them. The only magazines I had problems dropping freely were ProMag's. Threw them in the trash!
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