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Old January 10th, 2017, 09:09 AM   #1
 
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Is 38 spl +p the new 380?

I've noticed there has been an uptick with the popularity of 38spl pocket pistols; even with the 357 mag pistols ie LCR (357mag) owners usually shoot much more 38spl the full power 357 mag. With the R&D that has been thrown at 38 spl +p, the perceived reliability of a revolver and superior ballistics, there seems to be a come back of the 38 spl.



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Old January 10th, 2017, 09:30 AM   #2
 
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I like my .38sp LCR. so I'm rather partial to the .38 round
I personally feel the 38sp+p to be superior to the 380 in stopping power bc of the heavier bullet weight and ME
but the .380 makes a bigger wound channel with HP and higher velocity
interested on others take on the subject.....
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I carry a Colt Pocketlite .380 because it is flat and conceals easily.
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Not sure I understand the premise of this thread. Neither is the "new" anything. Both the .38 and the .380 have been around for decades, and both have been synonymous with "pocket pistols" forever.
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No difference for me, I like revolvers so I have a choice of calibers. My wife has a SMC380 in her purse, and has been OCing a 32-20 Colt Police Positive. I have loaded some low recoil loads for her Glock 22 to see if she will carry it.

What it comes down to for us is will the gun/caliber shoot where it is pointed, and penetrate deep enough to stop the threat. A 22lr to the noggin will do that, but I do not trust 22lr in a semi auto.

I carry a GP100 loaded with 38 spl +P+ wadcutters. I don't feel under, or over gunned. We have more options than most because we open carry. Except for her 380 in her purse.
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I carry both 442-2,638-3 M&P BG and a few others .38 spl+p and G42 or M&P BG 380's,I think the .38 is superior.Just my opinion!

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I was shooting both 38 and .380 today. The 38 is more manageable then the .380 IMO. The .380 is much easier to hide and two additional rounds. .380 was the LCP, 38 was Taurus model 85. If it came to a choice I would carry both.
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Are you asking about the caliber or the handguns. The .38 special was developed in the black powder era. And pocket pistols chambered in it have been around for over a century also. Which is also why the .38 special is down loaded to such low pressures, to avoid blowing up the old guns that are still in use today.
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I was shooting both 38 and .380 today. The 38 is more manageable then the .380 IMO. The .380 is much easier to hide and two additional rounds. .380 was the LCP, 38 was Taurus model 85. If it came to a choice I would carry both.
The 38 does have some advantage for women when carried in a purse. It can fired from within the purse without jamming. Problem with that is it would probably be difficult to hit the threat from within the purse.
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As a revolver fan, I'm partial to the .38 Special...and I've owned a few .380's..just never considered that caliber a 'primary' carry caliber! To me, .38+P or 9mm is the 'minimum' I will carry...preferring and EDCing a Glock 36 in .45 acp!

A quote I heard repetitively from a guy who was an FFL for 28+ years..."All one really needs a good .38 revolver!"
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Wow. We've got a thread that is not comparing and contrasting six rounds of .357 magnum versus five of .44 special. Nor are we talking .30-06 versus .243 for big game. No -- we're comparing one .38 pocket pistol with another .38 pocket pistol.

If we're this preoccupied with tiny increments, I'm about to start a thread debating whether Fedelini or Capellini pasta is superior.
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Not sure I understand the premise of this thread. Neither is the "new" anything. Both the .38 and the .380 have been around for decades, and both have been synonymous with "pocket pistols" forever.
The premise being since 2008 when Ruger released their LCP, suddenly their seemed to be more interest in 380 ACP pocket pistols. Several years later Ruger released their LCR in 38spl +p to little fan fare, but now as the 380 pocket pistols, have seems to have reached critical mass, suddenly the lightwieght 38 +p revolvers like the LCR (ie the new S&W 38 +p Bodyguard and Kimber K6 and the new release by Colt of the 38 +p Cobra) seem to be giving the 380ACP pocket pistols a run for their money..
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The .38 special can do anything a .380 can do and anything a 9mm can do with the right gun and a capable reloader. With factory loads? Meh, but handholding no comparison.
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My LCR 38s aren't my newest guns but they're my go to guns. I carry them more than the others, summer or winter & even with 3 finger grips they fit my front jeans pockets; 40x30 Wranglers. For winter, one left jacket pocket & one right. Have been carrying with 135 gr +P Gold Dots but will try the Lehigh Xtreme Defense rounds at the range this weekend & if they group well I might switch to those. Will also try some in my Beretta Pico 380 also. The Xtreme Penetrator jammed like crazy but has a flatter nose. Anyway my wife's new to guns & prefers my LCR over the others. Being a newbie she likes the simplicity & reliability.
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I used to carry a 380 walther pp and in nj hollowpoints were not legal except in your home so I used fmj and felt adequately protected.
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