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This is a discussion on Is 38 spl +p the new 380? within the Pistols & Revolvers forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; Originally Posted by onespeedbiker The premise being since 2008 when Ruger released their LCP, suddenly their seemed to be more interest in 380 ACP pocket ...


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Old January 10th, 2017, 05:59 PM   #16
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The premise being since 2008 when Ruger released their LCP, suddenly their seemed to be more interest in 380 ACP pocket pistols. Several years later Ruger released their LCR in 38spl +p to little fan fare, but now as the 380 pocket pistols, have seems to have reached critical mass, suddenly the lightwieght 38 +p revolvers like the LCR (ie the new S&W 38 +p Bodyguard and Kimber K6 and the new release by Colt of the 38 +p Cobra) seem to be giving the 380ACP pocket pistols a run for their money..
I see. I'm not sure if there was a cause and effect of that sort where any one gun brand or model caused the .380 revolution, or that any critical mass has been reached yet anywhere. If anything America's appetite for new guns remains relatively insatiable. I think the main driving force was the passage of concealed carry laws that swept the nation, even finally coming to commie-pinko Illinois in the last couple years. None of these guns are "new" technology, but the "Econ 101" demand curve shifted to the right and the supply curve reacted accordingly.



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Old January 10th, 2017, 07:28 PM   #17
 
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For my purposes, whatever ballistic advantage the .38+p has is more than offset by the additional 2 rounds of .380 self defense loads. So my EDC is a Bersa Thunder .380. For woods and hiking I like the SP101 in .357 .

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I bought one of the Ruger LCPs when they came out thinking the wife would carry it since it was so small. My wife is a very petite framed woman so size and weight are a concern to her. She had a hard time racking the slide but could do it. The one complaint she had was the trigger. That was the straw that broke the camels back. She wouldn't shoot it with that overly long double action trigger pull. The gun went to the back of the safe until I decided to give it a chance at a deep conceal carry piece. I just couldn't warm up to it and it went down the road. Picked up a Sig 290 and a custom shop S&W 642 for the role of deep conceal carry. Actually I have carried one or the other for the past 5 years everyday except when I've been working in CA or other states that refuse to accept one of the three CCWs I hold.
I liked how light weight the and small the LCP was but the trigger flat out sucks.

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I see. I'm not sure if there was a cause and effect of that sort where any one gun brand or model caused the .380 revolution, or that any critical mass has been reached yet anywhere. If anything America's appetite for new guns remains relatively insatiable. I think the main driving force was the passage of concealed carry laws that swept the nation, even finally coming to commie-pinko Illinois in the last couple years. None of these guns are "new" technology, but the "Econ 101" demand curve shifted to the right and the supply curve reacted accordingly.
Yes, I was casting a wide net, but there is no doubt that 380 ACP lightweight pistols have been more popular than a decade ago. While the 38 spl +p has also been around for a long time (When I worked for LA County Sherff in the 1980's they issued a SW model 15s with Winchester 110 gr +p+ ammo), it seems to me that rating pocket revolvers +p compatible is relatively new.

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Good things seem to hang around !
30-06 , 1911 in 45 acp , J-frame S&W in 38 special.
Not talked about , ignored by the press but one of the most often carried....the good old fashioned J-framed S&W in 38 special. I've carried them for decades.
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My standard CCW is a S&W Model 60 backed up by a Beretta Pico. I've got more experience with revolvers and shoot them better. I also think the small 357s are very good in the belly gun role. The Pico slips into a pocket easily enough that I usually figure "Why not?"
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If we're this preoccupied with tiny increments, I'm about to start a thread debating whether Fedelini or Capellini pasta is superior.
Don't be ridiculous! Everyone knows that Capellini is far superior to that pedestrian Fedelini fare!
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