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Old January 9th, 2017, 02:34 PM   #1
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Colt Delta Elite Rail Gun, Im interested..

So i was looking around today while I had some free time, and I have seen something that interest me. I have always been looking to acquire a Colt Delta Elite in 10mm. For some reason or another I have just not pulled the trigger as of yet. However I am very interested in their latest offering the railed version. I have always been interested in 10mm to try out, and have fun with, but now with the addition of a rail, same setup as my kimber, I may have to start putting away cash for one. What do you guys think?




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I too have eyed the mighty Colt 10mm beast! Hard to resist know ing I have the reloading dies already!

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Is that a 6 inch barrel on the beast in the picture?

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I love my smith 610 in 10 mm.
That's the holy grail for me with a price tag to boot!

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Im not sure about the specs, weight, barrel length etc, but hope to soon. I would think its a a government length.
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I have an original Colt Delta Elite and an S&W 1066. I love them both!
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Tacky, I don't want to pee on your campfire but thought you might be interested in this:

In 1990, I bought a brand new Colt Delta Elite Gold Cup. I had owned Gold Cups in 45 ACP and found them to truly be match grade guns .... sub-inch shooters at 25 yards right out of the box. At first sight, I was impressed .... the fit and finish on this stainless steel pistol was exceptional. As I first tried to pull the slide back, I got a surprise .... it took gorilla strength to get the slide back far enough to lock it in place. Ammo ....only two factory loads were available when I bought this Gold Cup .... 180gr (loaded to 1240 fps) and 200gr (loaded to 1160 fps).

On my first range trip, I decided to chronograph a few loads of both 180 and 200 gr factory loads and found they ran very close to advertised specs. I also noted the recoil was very stiff. At the time I was a recoil junky so that just added a little excitement. That said, my shooting buddy was not impressed with the Elite's heavy recoil .... I think he called it "disgusting." As previously noted, Colt Gold Cups were notorious for shooting "match grade" tight groups right out of the box. This 10mm Auto was an exception. Neither me or my shooting buddy could get 25 yard groups much under the size of a dinner plate with either the 180gr or 200gr factory loads.

When I got home, I field stripped the Elite and found there were two recoil springs coiled together. The sum of the two had to be in excess of 25 lbs. The rest of the Elite was pretty much the same as a normal Colt 1911 with exception of the extra parts in the sear (normal for a Gold Cup) and the unique grips. In the next few years, I took the Elite out for a few of my other shooting friends to try. No one could get it to shoot decent groups .... even from a good bench rest. I decided to send the gun back to Colt and see what magic they could do. It took 6 months until I finally got the gun back from the factory. The included note said something to the effect .... preformed just like other Delta Elite Gold Cups ... no repairs needed. Needless to say, I was sadly disappointed .... I now had a pistol that took a gorilla to operate, ammo was very expensive and had to be special ordered, "accuracy" could not be used in the same sentence as Delta Elite, and I paid quite a premium for it.

My Delta Elite spent a couple years in jail .... locked up in my safe. After the 40 S&W was released and ammo became available, Colt produced a conversion kit for the Delta Elite in 1995. The kit included a new 40 S&W match grade barrel with a match grade barrel bushing and a 16 lb recoil spring. 10mm Auto magazines were identical to the 40 S&W magazines. I bought and installed the conversion kit. The first notable thing was the side took the same effort as a 45 ACP slide. Accuracy was much better but I certainly would NOT call it match grade .... about 2" groups at 25 yards was the best I could muster. Of course recoil was much lighter .... nearly the same as a 45 ACP. I decided to cut my losses and sell the Delta Elite Gold Cup .... complete with the Colt 40 S&W conversion kit.

Fast forward to today .... 10mm Auto factory ammo has been toned down a lot ... not much more power than a 40 S&W. Along with the weaker ammo, accuracy has improved. Personally I can't see any practical use for a 10mm Auto .... other than being something different but that doesn't mean other people may not like it. Just my opinion of course.
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I had the sense to buy one when they wer ein production. I was actually able to use 40 sw ammo before guns were common as I used then in the 610 with moon clips.
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Tacky, I don't want to pee on your campfire but thought you might be interested in this:

In 1990, I bought a brand new Colt Delta Elite Gold Cup. I had owned Gold Cups in 45 ACP and found them to truly be match grade guns .... sub-inch shooters at 25 yards right out of the box. At first sight, I was impressed .... the fit and finish on this stainless steel pistol was exceptional. As I first tried to pull the slide back, I got a surprise .... it took gorilla strength to get the slide back far enough to lock it in place. Ammo ....only two factory loads were available when I bought this Gold Cup .... 180gr (loaded to 1240 fps) and 200gr (loaded to 1160 fps).

On my first range trip, I decided to chronograph a few loads of both 180 and 200 gr factory loads and found they ran very close to advertised specs. I also noted the recoil was very stiff. At the time I was a recoil junky so that just added a little excitement. That said, my shooting buddy was not impressed with the Elite's heavy recoil .... I think he called it "disgusting." As previously noted, Colt Gold Cups were notorious for shooting "match grade" tight groups right out of the box. This 10mm Auto was an exception. Neither me or my shooting buddy could get 25 yard groups much under the size of a dinner plate with either the 180gr or 200gr factory loads.

When I got home, I field stripped the Elite and found there were two recoil springs coiled together. The sum of the two had to be in excess of 25 lbs. The rest of the Elite was pretty much the same as a normal Colt 1911 with exception of the extra parts in the sear (normal for a Gold Cup) and the unique grips. In the next few years, I took the Elite out for a few of my other shooting friends to try. No one could get it to shoot decent groups .... even from a good bench rest. I decided to send the gun back to Colt and see what magic they could do. It took 6 months until I finally got the gun back from the factory. The included note said something to the effect .... preformed just like other Delta Elite Gold Cups ... no repairs needed. Needless to say, I was sadly disappointed .... I now had a pistol that took a gorilla to operate, ammo was very expensive and had to be special ordered, "accuracy" could not be used in the same sentence as Delta Elite, and I paid quite a premium for it.

My Delta Elite spent a couple years in jail .... locked up in my safe. After the 40 S&W was released and ammo became available, Colt produced a conversion kit for the Delta Elite in 1995. The kit included a new 40 S&W match grade barrel with a match grade barrel bushing and a 16 lb recoil spring. 10mm Auto magazines were identical to the 40 S&W magazines. I bought and installed the conversion kit. The first notable thing was the side took the same effort as a 45 ACP slide. Accuracy was much better but I certainly would NOT call it match grade .... about 2" groups at 25 yards was the best I could muster. Of course recoil was much lighter .... nearly the same as a 45 ACP. I decided to cut my losses and sell the Delta Elite Gold Cup .... complete with the Colt 40 S&W conversion kit.

Fast forward to today .... 10mm Auto factory ammo has been toned down a lot ... not much more power than a 40 S&W. Along with the weaker ammo, accuracy has improved. Personally I can't see any practical use for a 10mm Auto .... other than being something different but that doesn't mean other people may not like it. Just my opinion of course.
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By no means did you pee on my campfire, i like an informed opinion from someone that has experience with the poison of choice. Thanks for your honest opinion and what you have experienced.

I dunno maybe I am drawn to the 10mm because its something different. In the event I bought one, it would get handloaded for, since thats part of the fun, well most times. Maybe I just need to buy a desert eagle in 357 magnum to accompany my 50 ae. Or maybe a Coonan 357 mag. I dunno, your report has given me things to think about.

I dunno is it me or does the colt offerings seem rather basic. When you take Into account other 1911 styles on the market, springfield, wilson, kimber, etc. I guess I would figure a company that started the 1911 would have something that pops, and be the highmark to meet. Not that I am discrediting Colt, just figured they could raise the bar.
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I have a RIA 10mm and it's a blast (pun intended) to shoot! If you're looking for a 1911 in 10mm maybe go that route first to get your feet wet with the cartridge. It's easy to reload for and recoil is more stout than a 45 but not uncomfortable.
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I can see one of those CDE 10mm in my collection one day!
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