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Old January 5th, 2017, 06:17 PM   #16
 
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I am fairly new to the firearm scene and when I first became interested I could not wait to get myself a nice, cool semi-auto. I can hold 19 rounds in my semi - very nice. I was trying out some every cheap ammo a while back and when I had a few FTF in my new semi, I was a bit worried. I had an older inherited semi and tried the ammo and sure enough, FTF. I know it was the ammo, but it made me wonder. A friend of mine begged me for the remaining 300 rounds of the cheap stuff and his semi ate through it like it was candy. My semi's were better made, better quality - but still they failed me.

Since then I took a close look at revolvers and have purchased 3, all Rugers. LCR-22, LCR-357 and a GP100MC. They have never, ever failed....and I have put them to the test. The worst I ever had was a bit of lead fouling but NEVER any failure.

I like revolvers. Since this all started, I have lost some strength in my left arm, not allot, but just enough to make it harder for me to rack the semi......Never have a problem loading a revolver.

The ONLY advantage a semi has, IMO, is the number of rounds it holds. As many have said, if I need more than what my revolver can hold, I'm in trouble anyway......

Whatever you decide, practice with it. Get to know it, learn what it can and cannot do, love it and take care of it.....your life may depend on it some day.



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Well I haven't shot much 10 mm auto and I don't particularly like Glocks, so take that into account.

The pistol versus autoloader debate goes on and on and probably will forever. The conventional wisdom is that revolvers are less prone to malfunctions than autoloaders, but when revolvers do experience a malfunction, it is much more prone to take the gun out of action. Revolvers are more ammo tolerant, but as long as you have an autoloader that has tested reliably with your carry load, I don't see that as a big issue. Certainly autoloaders are more prone to operator error, such as forgetting to chamber a round, or forgetting there is a round in the chamber, failure to adequately seat a magazine, or limp wristing, but it sounds as if you are familiar with autoloader function, so that is probably also a moot point.

As for ability to take abuse, both the GP100 and Glocks have a reputation for ruggedness of design and reliability, so I suspect that is a toss-up.

If you are concerned about defending yourself against larger four-legged predators like wild hogs or black bear I would prefer the 10 mm auto and would probably load it with FMJ ammo for maximum penetration. Obviously, either 357 Magnum or 10 mm will be effective against the two-legged variety of predator. Ammo expense does favor the 357 Magnum by a bit, but if you buy ammo online the difference is not that great.

If it were me I would go with whichever handgun you feel you can shoot better. As I said, I haven't shot much 10 mm and I don't know the exact characteristics of the loads I shot as they were borrowed pistols. I have a GP100 and for myself, I find that I don't handle the recoil of full 357 Magnum loads for follow up shots as well as I would like. The 10 mms I have shot have actually been better in that regard. If you compare the muzzle energy of 158 grain 357 Magnum to that of 155 grain 10 mm auto, they are very similar. But in an autoloader you have slide inertia and the recoil spring to soak up some of the recoil that you do not have in a revolver.
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It's 2017. Neither one is inherently more reliable than the other. I have both, I like both and I recommend both. If one appeals to you more than the other get it and don't look back.
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Any time Glocks are discussed the hatred for Glocks comes out.

Glocks are not inherently dangerous, nor are they prone to accidental discharges.

If you put a live round in the chamber and pull the trigger - The gun will fire! That is EXACTLY what the gun is designed to do and it is exactly what the operator expects the gun to do. If you don't want it to go bang, don't pull the trigger.

Glocks are incredibly tough and have proven to be capable of withstanding tremendous abuse. They are simple devices and remarkably reliable. Plastic is light weight and doesn't rust. The tenifer & parkerized finish is extremely tough and even the internal parts are protected. The finish was changed in recent years but seems to be equally as durable.

A Glock is an excellent tool for harsh environments but a stainless GP-100 would also work.
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Which of the platforms are inherently more reliable ? The one you take the proper care and maintenance of. Nothing mechanical is 100% reliable when the human factor is added to the equation. The manufactures reputation also comes into play. Hard to go with price factor, some you are paying more for the name over quality. I buy for the "long haul" and want a workhorse with a reputation that is known to hold up and be reliable whether it's a semi auto or a wheel gun. Price has never been my determining factor, that can always be negotiated.

What I find the funniest. Some one will just HAVE to have this brand because that's what all the "popular kids" have, then they swap out half the parts "because everyone says...". When in reality they could have just bought a higher end model and spent less in the long run.
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Any time Glocks are discussed the hatred for Glocks comes out.

Glocks are not inherently dangerous, nor are they prone to accidental discharges.

If you put a live round in the chamber and pull the trigger - The gun will fire! That is EXACTLY what the gun is designed to do and it is exactly what the operator expects the gun to do. If you don't want it to go bang, don't pull the trigger.

Glocks are incredibly tough and have proven to be capable of withstanding tremendous abuse. They are simple devices and remarkably reliable. Plastic is light weight and doesn't rust. The tenifer & parkerized finish is extremely tough and even the internal parts are protected. The finish was changed in recent years but seems to be equally as durable.

A Glock is an excellent tool for harsh environments but a stainless GP-100 would also work.
Can't say I don't agree. May of my friends are diehard Glock fans.

BUT, Glock has also been known to have some catastrophic chamber failures.
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Can't say I don't agree. May of my friends are diehard Glock fans.

BUT, Glock has also been known to have some catastrophic chamber failures.
I wouldn't characterize a blown casing as a "catastrophic" chamber failure.
There were some instances of case failures due to unsupported casings in some older Glocks but Glock (and OTHER manufacturers as well) changed those designs. The chamber doesn't fail in those situations, the casing does.

I'm not a diehard Glock fanboy but I'll give credit where it's due. Glocks are proven. They are incredibly reliable and durable.

Yes, they're ugly and Yes, they're ubiquitous but they do WORK.
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If the intended purpose is a woods gun that may encounter moisture, mud, drops, etc., I'd personally go for the .357 in SS with a minimum 4in barrel. Ruger's GP100 has many fans for a number of reasons, not the least of which is reliability.

Not to say that revolvers cannot fail, but all things equal, they generally have fewer issues than semi autos.

Here's an article that may help.

http://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/re...deal-obsolete/
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I know the 357 is extremely loud. I doubt that you will be wearing hearing protection. I don't know for sure but I believe that the 10mm would not hurt your ears as much.

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Any time Glocks are discussed the hatred for Glocks comes out.

Glocks are not inherently dangerous, nor are they prone to accidental discharges.

If you put a live round in the chamber and pull the trigger - The gun will fire! That is EXACTLY what the gun is designed to do and it is exactly what the operator expects the gun to do. If you don't want it to go bang, don't pull the trigger...
My main issue with the Glock is that the out-of-the box trigger is too light for the general user, with no external safety available. To me, it is similar to a 1911 without a safety. I had a Glock 17 in the early 1990s, and it was a fine pistol. But the stock trigger was too light for my revolver-shooting liking. If I had known about the 'NYPD trigger' then, I may have kept it.

As for the original post, there are some very good holsters available for revolvers that protect the gun from the elements. I find the original post rather humorous, as if the OP rolls around in the mud and falls down hills every time he ventures out in the woods.

For normal civilian 'out in the woods' carry (not in a muddy battlefield trench), I implicitly trust my properly maintained GP100 (or Redhawk) revolver.
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I wouldn't characterize a blown casing as a "catastrophic" chamber failure.
I'm talking CHAMBER failure not CASING. They were also FACTORY loads, NOT reloads. So, we don't have to go there.

I'll let you explain that to the guys with stitched up hands and blown up Glocks. They had their share of problems.
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Revolver. If you can't fix the problem with 5=6 rounds you aren't going to do it with more
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If I was backpacking in the woods and it was not bear, or moose country, I would feel well armed with a snubbed nose 38 special +P but that's just me.

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I like and carry both.
Both of mine are reliable.
The semi has higher capacity, easier to carry more ammo. My semi is easier to clean.
Revolver is more basic.
Revolver doesn't fail to feed, fail to eject. No magazine to damage or lose.
I carry the semi more often but if I had to rely on just one, it would be the revolver.


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I'm talking CHAMBER failure not CASING. They were also FACTORY loads, NOT reloads. So, we don't have to go there.

I'll let you explain that to the guys with stitched up hands and blown up Glocks. They had their share of problems.
I don't need to EXPLAIN ANYTHING to guys with "stitched up hands and blown up Glocks" because that allegation is total BS.

There's nothing inherently weak about the breach end of a Glock barrel and there are ZERO documented instances of Glock chambers failing with SAAMI spec loads and unobstructed barrels. This is complete internet lore and a classic example of Glock bias and slanderous myth.

The design of a Glock barrel is similar to that of the barrels used by SIG, H&K, S&W, RUGER and dozens of other manufacturers. It's a well proven design and the materials are similar between manufacturers.

If you have proof to the contrary, PLEASE SHARE IT !
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