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Is it time for a Glock?

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#1 ·
Over the last few years I've been able to put together a pretty well rounded gun collection that is mostly made up of Rugers. While I've considered other brands along the way, I've pretty much always chosen the Ruger offering in each class of gun I've been interested in because I've always had such good luck with them. And they are almost always less expensive.

So with the bases pretty much covered, anything I buy at this point is really just another range toy. Between a non-Ruger rifle I'm about to sell and some Christmas cash/gift cards, I'm ready to add to the collection.

I'm mostly interested in adding another 9mm pistol at this point. I could get a RAP in that caliber (I already have one in 45ACP) or I could get another 9E and get it custom colored (I feel like a FDE colored handgun would be cool). Alternatively, though, I'm thinking its time to try another major manufacturer. I've looked at the Glock 17 and 19 off and on for a few years but never bitten.

Alternatively I could look at Sig P320 or S&W M&P. Or maybe there is something else I should be considering.

Just wondering what other Ruger fans think about the non-Ruger popular options.
 
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#30 ·
I've owned 3 Glock 19's, a 30SF, a 23, a 27 and a 29. I currently own none of them. I actually like the look and all of them were dead nuts reliable but just never could get used to the feel of them in my hand or on my hip.

If I were in the market for another 9mm I'd look at the VP9. Had a chance to shoot one and wow, what a nice gun. CZ75d or PCR is a great choice. Owned the PCR and loved it, it just wasn't enough different from my 75b to keep both so I chose the bigger one. I'd really like to check out the new CZ P-10C. The ergonomics of the CZ line is legendary and I find that they fit my hand better than anything I've ever picked up.

Good luck in your search. Oh, and if you really want a Glock, buy, borrow or rent one and see for yourself if its for you or not...
 
#31 · (Edited)
Had the same dilemma, I've had a P89DC since the early 90s, I wanted a better trigger and easier concealed carry. I looked at the Glock 19, didn't like the grip angle. I went with the Sig 320 in the compact grip frame. Great size, great trigger, stricker fired, just what I wanted.

Going forward, my Ruger purchases will be revolvers and rimfire Mark/10-22. For bolt action, semi auto rifles and 9mm pistols there are better manufacturers to choose from.
 
#32 ·
Glocks

I've had several Glock over the years, but now am down to one, a G35 with a 9mm conversion barrel. Very reliable pistols, and parts, when needed, are dirt cheap. The grips could use a reduction job for my hands, but I've never gotten around to it.
 
#33 ·
I'm issued a Glock and own plenty of Glocks (blue label pricing makes it too easy) and have been thinking of getting another Glock 19 since I always tell people at the bare minimum have a Glock 19. My mom has my gen2 and my exwife has my gen4. I don't plan on getting them back anytime soon so I was planning on getting another 19 with threaded barrel but...CZ also has LE pricing so I preordered the new CZ P10C suppressor ready version.


Never had a CZ but will give them a shot.
My 9mm guns are currenly Berettas, Glocks, HKs, S&W and SIG so I will branch out.
 
#34 ·
My first 5 guns were Rugers (new LCP II, new SR22, used LC9, used LCR, and used Mark II). Each time I would go looking with the intention of trying out a new brand the low cost and high quality of Ruger would win me over.

I rented a Glock 22 at the range just to see what a 40 cal / Glock felt like. The recoil was less than I anticipated and I had decent accuracy with it. Last week I traded in the SR22 and paid the difference for a new G22. Its is more of a range gun for me as I already have some pocket sized Rugers for CC but I would getting one for sure.
 
#35 ·
Have you shot Glocks? I certainly wouldn't buy a Glock just for the sake of owning a Glock, anymore than I would a pistol from any other maker.

Certainly if Glocks work for you, they have quite a bit of juice, including simplicity of design, reliability, cheap magazines, and great aftermarket support. The G19 is an excellent size for concealed carry and has a sleeker profile than most of its competitors in the same size category.

Having said that, I dislike Glocks and will probably never own one, and I certainly won't feel "incomplete" for the lack of a Glock. The block-like grips I find uncomfortable, and the finger grooves on the G19 Gen3s and Gen4s are too small to fit my fingers. Glocks do not point naturally for me, partly due to the grip angle, but mostly due to the exaggerated palm swell ("Glock hump") low down on the back strap which pushes the whole bore axis upward. The stock sights that come with Glocks are cheap plastic and totally inappropriate for a pistol in the price range that Glocks go for. The trigger action is uninspiring. And personally, I do find them ugly, although that would not stop my from buying one.

Polymer-frame, striker-fired pistols do have some merits. But there are many Glock alternatives these days. I own 2 SIG P320s but I would also choose an HK VP9, Walther PPQ, Walther P99, Steyr M9 A1, or even an FN FNS 9 before I would a Glock.
 
#37 ·
My 1st Glock

I swore for years that I would never own a Glock. I guess I'm old school at 70yrs and I only owned metal framed Guns. My Son carried a Glock 26 for several years, but had to switch to a single stack Glock for work. One day my Local FFL Dealer calls and said to come and get the G26 which my Boy had sent him for transfer, without telling me in advance. After shooting it, I learned to Love the G26, I retired my Kahr K9 and have been carrying the G26 for about a year now. It is as concealable as the K9 and hold 11rds of 9mm compared to the Kahr's 8rd capacity.
 
#38 ·
Didn't really care for the feel of the Glocks. I liked the feel of the M&P right out of the box when they first came out. Test fired different brands on the range and walked away with a new M&P and never looked back.
 
#40 ·
I had never bought a Glock until the gen4 series came out. I got a G19 and have really liked it. Something about the slightly smaller grip combined with the shorter length of the G19 fit my hand. I've thought about someday adding another mode G19 (FDE? MOS?) but am waiting until at least after the Shot Show to see if anything new is offered.

Had an M&P 40 once but never got accustomed to the hinged trigger; nor the style of the manual safety.

My daughter really likes her Bersa UC Pro 9 as she prefers hammer guns.
 
#41 ·
love our G19 Gen4, neither of my boys (13 and 18) like the handguns... but it still gets the most rounds downrange on any trip out.

i'd say i have average size hands and it just fits so comfortably, easy to get on and return to point for me.

glad i bought it. also have a G26 Gen3 - only thing wrong is the length of the grip...
 
#45 ·
My first 9mm was a Glock 17. I really liked it but didn't really have a comparison. A couple of years later, I got an SR9c. For me, the grip on the Ruger is a perfect fit. I shoot the SR9c much better than the full-sized 17. Now that I have additional 9s, I really don't like the boxy Glock grip. I haven't fired a Glock single stack or even a gen 4 for that matter so I can't speak to those but the traditional Glock grip is not a good fit for me.
 
#47 ·
I'm a revolver guy, but when California started the unconstitutional gun grab I decided I should get a good semi-auto before the fruits and nuts ban them.
Bought a Glock G26 and love everything about it, especially it's malfunction free accuracy.
Still a revolver guy looking for the new Redhawk® Model 05033 357 Mag - Double-Action Revolver. ... ;)
 
#48 ·
I'm going to add another voice to the CZ chorus. If you are looking for something different, one of the CZ75 variants (or a CZ97 if you want to go big and get a .45) is worth considering.

I had a Glock 41. Had to send it back to Glock to get it to stop dropping the magazine after every shot. Traded it off for a 1971 Walther PP and I'm much happier.

If you really want to own a Glock, buy one of these - https://www.dillonprecision.com/glock-field-knife-sawback_8_23_26322.html
 
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#50 · (Edited)
I've owned just about every popular brand of pistol .... including several Glocks. You won't see any Glocks in my safe. If you are leaning toward a 9mm or possibly a 40 S&W, the best pistol on the market is a CZ-75b. Flawless operation, ergonomically sound, accurate, 16 round magazines, many features, and they don't look bad either.

Here's my stainless 75b ....

 
#53 ·
Iowegan .. what draws me to Ruger is the made in the USA, i have seen alot of forum members talk about CZ pistols and their quality. I know they are a Czech company but where are they masde? USA by chance?
 
#51 ·
Some 9mm SIG P320 owners are having extractor issues and have had to return them for repairs. I have an M&P 45 and the trigger is not very nice, my SR40 and SR40c are much smoother. I am not the guy that buys a gun and completely rebuild it just to make it better. I had a Glock 23, recoil was to harsh and even with Talon grip installed, I could not get accustomed to its grip angle. Like mentioned above, I recently purchased the HK VP9 and this gun has a fantastic trigger and very accurate out off the box, shoots better than my SIG P226 Mark 25 :)
 

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#56 ·
My CZ75B would most likely be my most accurate handgun.
Looks good as well..... ;)


 
#57 ·
Alternatively I could look at Sig P320 or S&W M&P. Or maybe there is something else I should be considering.

Just wondering what other Ruger fans think about the non-Ruger popular options.
Get the Sig, opr a Beretta 92.

I don't like glocks.

1. They're plastic.

2.They're ugly. Call me a bitch, but I always like a gun

better, when it looks cool, too.

3. In past dealings with the company, I've noticed they seem to

have a rudely arrogant detachment from the average Joe Customer.

"We're glock, we sell so much military & police business, we can't be

bothered to be polite to you small potatoes."

4. Don't even get me started on the crappy safety, and AD issues,

including "glock leg syndrome". No other manufacturer has an AD

NAMED after it.

5. Striker fired guns are not my cup of tea.


Get something hammer-fired, with an external safety, that looks

nice. You'll be happy you spent the extra dough, down the road.
 
#64 ·
As expected, this thread went all over the map.

I've owned CZ's and they are excellent guns. There are a lot details about the CZ's that make those pistols stand out: steel construction, inside the frame slide rails, excellent grip, DA/SA operation with SA "cocked and locked" option and other positive features. They are well made a still a good value.

Getting back to the OP, and his "time for a Glock" question.
I was never a Glock hater but I was ambivalent towards the Glock for a long time. I now have a lot of respect for the Glock platform. They are incredibly reliable, they are durable and they just flat out work.
Once you get past all of the prejudice, most of which is based on appearance and adherence to tradition, there's a lot to like about a Glock.

YES - they are ugly, no argument there.
YES- the frame is plastic. It works, get over it.
Safety - if you put a live round in the chamber and pull the trigger it is supposed to go bang. If you don't want it to go bang, don't pull the trigger. I don't know what else to tell you.
Accuracy- I don't think Glocks were ever intended to be target pistols but I'd be willing to bet that they are capable of better accuracy than most shooters are able to extract from them.

The guns are simple and that's a good thing. They are also incredibly tough, also a good thing. As a combat pistol, they do what they are supposed to do.

There's a long list of companies that make Glock knock offs. That saying about imitation being the sincerest form of flattery is true.

I've said it before and it's worth repeating:
Any striker fired, plastic framed, high capacity pistol with a square cross section slide that locks to the barrel via a squared off ejection port (a' la SIG) - That isn't a Glock - IS A GLOCK COPY. Just buy the Glock instead.
 
#65 · (Edited)
Getting back to the OP, and his "time for a Glock" question.
I was never a Glock hater but I was ambivalent towards the Glock for a long time. I now have a lot of respect for the Glock platform. They are incredibly reliable, they are durable and they just flat out work.
Once you get past all of the prejudice, most of which is based on appearance and adherence to tradition, there's a lot to like about a Glock.

YES - they are ugly, no argument there.
YES- the frame is plastic. It works, get over it.
Safety - if you put a live round in the chamber and pull the trigger it is supposed to go bang. If you don't want it to go bang, don't pull the trigger. I don't know what else to tell you.
Accuracy- I don't think Glocks were ever intended to be target pistols but I'd be willing to bet that they are capable of better accuracy than most shooters are able to extract from them.

The guns are simple and that's a good thing. They are also incredibly tough, also a good thing. As a combat pistol, they do what they are supposed to do.

There's a long list of companies that make Glock knock offs. That saying about imitation being the sincerest form of flattery is true.
^^^^^Nailed it.^^^^^

Best summation of Glocks I've ever read especially the highlighted comment regarding prejudice and adherence to tradition.

I've read for years about how great the CZ75 is and it may be but every time I've handled one they just didn't fit my hand and they felt cheap. I actually once went to my LGS specifically to buy one but after handling it I couldn't do it. It felt like a toy and the controls were flimsy IMO. To be fair I haven't shot one and a little range time might change my mind. When I run out of other gun interests maybe I'll revisit the CZ75 but for now I'm good with my Sigs, Berettas and Ruger 9mm's.
 
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