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Old December 18th, 2016, 02:51 PM   #31
 
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I would like to look at one after they come out, but 44 Special ammo isn't cheap & adding another caliber to shoot means more expense as well. If I am going to add a large bore handgun it will be in a .45 acp in a Ruger Vaquero Birdshead or a Ruger Blackhawk Flattop model .45LC/.45 acp cylinder option. The .45acp ammo is far far cheaper to shoot then .44 Special. Not that a .44 Special Ruger GP100 wouldn't be nice. I see that they are going to make it first in a 3 inch barreld GP100 thats the barrel length that I have in my GP100WC II & that has been a outstanding revolver for me very accurate!!! A couple of questions that I have first S&W came out with the model 69- 5 shot .44 Magnum. I read that the GP100 has a slightly smaller in diameter cylinder vs a S&W 686/586 cylinder. But S&W has had both 5 shot .44 Specials & .44 Magnums I am not sure if the .44 Special was a K or L framed gun?? But is there a possibility that Ruger has enough cylinder width & strength to actually have a 5 shot .44 magnum??? If so then why come out with a .44 Special because a 5 shot .44 magnum can also shoot .44 specials very accurately as well. My feelings is what I have seen online so far on the gun tests of Ruger's new GP100 .44 Special this gun looks to be very stunning spectacular to say the least!!! This revolver having adjustable sights makes it very versatile as well. My Ruger GP100 WC II my favorite feature is the Novak front and rear sights. I set of Novak sights with adjustable rear Novak now that would really be very nice. I do see this revolver selling like hot cakes so to speak I keep reading posts here on the Ruger Forum that the GP100 WC still has quite a draw to it that they are a hard to find revolver. I bought a set of the Ruger GP100 Compact grips from Waveform and all I can say is wow these grips really make this revolver feel smaller in actual grip size for us folks with smaller hands this really helps plus they also lend a feeling or look that I really like the S&W Model 19/66 2.5 inch revolver round butt grip!!! I have fired a few of my .357 reloads using the compact grips and they handle the .357 recoil very well. I see the Ruger GP100 .44 Special a real winner its about time!!!




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Old December 18th, 2016, 03:17 PM   #32
 
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I know there are quite a few people on this forum who really like the .44 special. I hear so much hoopla, and how many say it's their favorite cartridge. I even hear rumblings that Ruger may come out with a 5 bean shooter .44 spec GP100. So I have to ask, am I the only one who really has no interest in a .44 special? I just download .44 mag cases and shoot them in my .44 mag revolvers. My intention is to not ruffle any feathers. But seriously, what, if anything, am I missing?
I need a F18 fighter, or at least I want one.

I own a couple 44 special, and a 44 mag, I like them. But I also like my 32-20 revolver. There are advantages to the shorter cases for non magnum, or high pressure loads. Less powder, less recoil, less muzzle flash.

Most times I carry a 38 spl GP100 instead of the 44, but I sometimes carry the 32-20 or my 32 HRM single six.
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. But seriously, what, if anything, am I missing?
If you think about it, you can load a .44M to .44S levels easily. It doesn't work the other way.

You can buy a .44M that is in the same weight class as a .44S.

For sure, the .44S is still an effective load, but it has limits.
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Why? Because it's 45 Colt and not 454C. We're talking guns here. Logic and reason don't always prevail.
Maybe even never

And, why would it?

Everyone sees something different when they pick up a firearm of any kind. (Making any argument a waste of time).
But it's interesting to ask why from time to time, as sometimes the different opinions make sense, or gives me insight I hadn't previously considered.
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Surprised nobody has mentioned the Cowboy action shooters who use the .44 Special revolvers to shoot .44 Russian in. Me personally I'm with the OP. Don't really see the need for .44 Special when I have a .44 Mag Redhawk that can do all 3 cartridges.
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If you want it, get it. There are plenty of choices for everyone. I'm glad it's available for those wanting the special.
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If you want it, get it.
That's the spirit.

For the most part, I've always felt the .44M could be loaded to almost any level from the same case, making the Special redundant. Especially since my M69 came home.

But without a doubt, I'll snag a GP100/.44. As soon as it hits the catalogs I'll order one. I'll likely order some Starline right after Christmas, just to be ready.
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This is my take on it as well! I have Super blackhawks that feel like a tank compared to my flattop 44 specials. The lighter frame just feels and packs better. A GP100 based special would be much nicer than my Redhawks.
You got your wish, apparently somebody @ Ruger has been reading this thread... Ruger GP100 Standard Double-Action Revolver Model 1761

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I would like to look at one after they come out, but 44 Special ammo isn't cheap & adding another caliber to shoot means more expense as well. If I am going to add a large bore handgun it will be in a .45 acp in a Ruger Vaquero Birdshead or a Ruger Blackhawk Flattop model .45LC/.45 acp cylinder option. The .45acp ammo is far far cheaper to shoot then .44 Special. Not that a .44 Special Ruger GP100 wouldn't be nice. I see that they are going to make it first in a 3 inch barreled GP100 that's the barrel length that I have in my GP100WC II & that has been a outstanding revolver for me very accurate!!! A couple of questions that I have first S&W came out with the model 69- 5 shot .44 Magnum. I read that the GP100 has a slightly smaller in diameter cylinder vs a S&W 686/586 cylinder. But S&W has had both 5 shot .44 Specials & .44 Magnums I am not sure if the .44 Special was a K or L framed gun?? But is there a possibility that Ruger has enough cylinder width & strength to actually have a 5 shot .44 magnum??? If so then why come out with a .44 Special because a 5 shot .44 magnum can also shoot .44 specials very accurately as well. My feelings is what I have seen online so far on the gun tests of Ruger's new GP100 .44 Special this gun looks to be very stunning spectacular to say the least!!! This revolver having adjustable sights makes it very versatile as well. My Ruger GP100 WC II my favorite feature is the Novak front and rear sights. I set of Novak sights with adjustable rear Novak now that would really be very nice. I do see this revolver selling like hot cakes so to speak I keep reading posts here on the Ruger Forum that the GP100 WC still has quite a draw to it that they are a hard to find revolver. I bought a set of the Ruger GP100 Compact grips from Waveform and all I can say is wow these grips really make this revolver feel smaller in actual grip size for us folks with smaller hands this really helps plus they also lend a feeling or look that I really like the S&W Model 19/66 2.5 inch revolver round butt grip!!! I have fired a few of my .357 reloads using the compact grips and they handle the .357 recoil very well. I see the Ruger GP100 .44 Special a real winner its about time!!!
Perhaps the fact that the cylinder is unfluted keeps up the strength without need for bulk... And don't forget the triple cylinder locking mechanism.

Dam sure does! Must have just posted up on they're website... Ruger GP100 Standard Double-Action Revolver - I thought you guys were dreaming out loud; not talking about a product that was (is now) right around the corner.

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That's the spirit.

For the most part, I've always felt the .44M could be loaded to almost any level from the same case, making the Special redundant. Especially since my M69 came home.

But without a doubt, I'll snag a GP100/.44. As soon as it hits the catalogs I'll order one. I'll likely order some Starline right after Christmas, just to be ready.
Retail is $829 - you still in a big hurry to get one?

Think I'll take a back seat for awhile, give them a chance to work out any bugs that may crop up in the early production models.

Merry Christmas everybody
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- you still in a big hurry to get one?
I'll look for one after New Years, I want to see/feel it when I buy. Most early versions of a Ruger product are a tad rough. By mid 2017, they should be pretty well ironed out, ( and I will have recovered my Christmas credit card sins).

I did order 500 from Starline though. My bet is the GP will bump up sales when the GP/44 story gets around.
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no, they both hurt like hell when you get hit with either one.
Very true
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Well I used to think I didn't need one then I shot a mid frame flat top blackhawk in 44 special, then I just had to have one!!!
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Like the 38 super and 41 mag the 44 special is a cartridge with panache.
I like this statement. I've wanted a 44 special for a long time, not bashing them, but I didn't want a charter or a Taurus, and the smiths I found were just too expensive for me to afford. I already have a Talo birdshead 44 mag in 3.75 inch barrel, but I didn't like cleaning the residue from the chambers after shooting specials, plus it's not the best defensive carry piece anyway. When I found out Ruger was making one I snatched up the first one I could find.
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Find a friend who'll let you shoot theirs. Then ask yourself that question. I'll be the guy in front of you in the checkout line Bought one earlier this year and I must say, ITS FUN AS HELL TO SHOOT IT!! Its kinda the one everyone wants to try, but only a few of us cool people own. Ron
I just came back to this thread and in the interim I did find and buy a Bisley 45 Colt.
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An ol friend used to say 'All I want is this, n I'll be happy'...said it often. Once the buzz wore off from the new purchase he was back to 'needin' something new again. Since I don't have one of them thar 44's....I might be needin to get one myself! ....hehe
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I presently own a Charter Arms .44 Bulldog made about 1973, that I put the Pachmeyer grips on, it's a 3" and I used to carry that revolver with 200 grain Semi-wad cutters. Now I want their .44 SPL. in the stainless steel with the 2.5" barrel, just because. Note I have quite few .44Mags. but I do enjoy shooting the .44SPL again just because.
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