wvruger

Wanting some input on which you would choose and why beretta 92 or taurus 92 ( was thinking 99 for adjustable sights)

Would enjoy having a betetta, but like the look and feel of the SS taurus, plus the safety features of the taurus.

BuckeyeBlast

I've actually heard many times that people actually prefer shooting the Taurus. I own the Taurus and am considering selling it, it's a great pistol, just not for me. I have no complaints with mine. I agree with the liking the look of the Taurus. This pistol looking so good is the only reason I bought it.



My best friend has the Baretta version. I've shot both. I like the Beretta simply because it is a Beretta, but the both shoot pretty similar. It's really a tossup IMO.

wvruger

Thats my reasoning is the fact that a beretta is well a beretta. I will more than likely end up owning both at one point in time but the more i hear about the taurus the more i consider it.

SR9c

Of all the Taurus models, the PT92/99/917 have by far the best history of no problems.

On the other hand, I like the Beretta a lot better. Currently, they are again bringing in the Italian made models which I would rather have...No, it's not for the which is better, I just want my Italian gun made in Italy, my German Mercedes made in Germany, not Alabama and my BMW made in Germany, not South Carolina...

Raminator

Beretta of course. Nobody will look at a Taurus PT 92 and say, "nice taurus". They will call it a Beretta. So why not just get the real deal?









10,000 rounds, no troubles, no jams, nothing. I squeeze the trigger, the gun goes bang, and bang, and bang, and... you get the idea.

wvruger

great looking beretta!!!!!

gunguru

I'm waiting for the new Beretta 92A1 announced at 2010 Shot Show.

Raminator

I am so going to buy that! It has everything I want in a Beretta 92 FS! Glad they decided to slap a rail on there too.

dolfin

I have both a Beretta 92 blued and a Taurus PT 99. Both shoot about the same. I have had no problems with either one. It's a Perference thing. Both are good.

OklahomaRuger

Both the Beretta and the Taurus clone are excellent guns and either would do very well for you. I prefer the Taurus because I prefer the 1911 style safety as opposed to the Beretta slide mounted safety. Other than that its a toss up.

Nutty Ned

92/100 Beretta clones by taurus are pretty good, I'd let avilability and price make the decision

Dana the Dane

I prefer my Beretta, but the frame-mounted safety on the Taurus makes more sense. They are both great pistols.

capnhector

i have heard of more horror stories with taurus customer service than with beratta but also that taurus is a good piece of shooting iron. i think the decission will be availability, which safty you prefer, customer service and if your a boondock saints fan (id have to go with the beratta)

Rugerismisticness

From what I hear, the Taurus is more accurate. I do like the position of the safety bettor on the taurus too. The beretta does have nicer build quality. I would probably get the taurus. There was a thread a while ago about the locking mechanisms cracking (not the frames, like the old berettas) on both the beretta and taurus. Must be lots of stress in the design.

Raminator

Let your trigger finger be your safety. The Beretta's first double-action trigger pull is very long and deliberate. This is a very small chance of you cookin' one off by accident, unless you are a total jackass, in which case you probably shouldn't even be holding one.

When the WSP was using Beretta 92's, they were actually trained to NOT use their decock lever as a safety. After all, a decock lever it what it really is. The fact that it acts like a safety is just a byproduct of the decocking action. It renders the trigger useless. The problem with relying on the safety is that if it is in the safe/decock position, you may draw in a fast, reactive situation, squeeze the trigger and... nothing happens!

The long double action of the first trigger pull is similar to a double action revolver. So, for all intents and purposes, the safety doesn't even need to be there. It only serves as a decock mechanism on my weapon. As soon as I decock it, I flip it back up into the firing position and holster it. I've never carried my 92 FS around with the safety decock lever down, ever!

stantheman86

I see no real use for a safety on a DA auto, I mean we got by for more than 110 years with DA revolvers without safeties!

I have a CZ-85b DA and I don't think I have ever moved the safety lever.

I have heard the best gun Taurus makes is the PT92, and technically it does have "Beretta DNA". I have been looking around for an early Taurus PT92, the ones that were actually made right after Taurus bought out the manufacturing facilities in Brazil from Beretta. If I were to buy a PT92 it would be an older model with no rail.

dankim04

I just got a 101 .40 with 2 16 rnd mags a few weeks ago and I love it, it may be my new favorite handgun! Runs great, put 400-500 rnds through it (cheap bulk Win FMJ from Wmart) and no ftf or fte. It wont be a ccw because Im a small guy and its a pretty large frame, maybe cc in the winter with a jacket. I have a few Taurus and never had a problem with any of them.

Craig Roser

So what value does stamping "STAINLESS" on the barrel add? Do owners forget and look there! to see what material they are preparing to clean?

gqucool

Hey Raminator just because it is a Beretta yes that means its a great gun....but if you can get the Taurus for a whole lot less and it shoots just as good let the dummy's call it a Beretta one can smile and remember the $$$$$ saved!!!!!!

Raminator

I bought my Beretta for $550 out the door, after tax, so you tell me.

Yeah, gcucool, Taurus guns are cheaper, and you may smirk and think of the money you save, and that's fine. I still own a Beretta.

Beretta or bust!

Oh BTW, when is Beretta going to start selling the new 92A1? I just went into a gunshop and asked about it, and the guy behind the counter didn't even know what I was talking about.

gqucool

Hey Rammy I am not smirking I like all sorts of guns no matter what the name! Seems to me you were not saying the same thing but thats cool.

Trifle

My son has a Beretta 92. He purchased it because of his familiarity with it while in the military. He is extremely happy with it.

Raminator

That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that I own a Beretta. That's all.

I would own any gun if the price is right.

frenchy

Beretta beats Taurus.

I was shooting reloaded ammo in a zip-lock bag that my friend bought at a gunshow. The first trip to the range by myself and in Beretta 92F, I got 3 malfunctions. All three were blown case rims inside the pistol that would get stuck in the barrel and not extract. I stopped shooting that ammo. I also noticed a great difference of recoil between shots...? The gun was fine though and since then I must have shot about 350 rounds(not the reloaded ones hehe). Then on my second trip my friend came with me and brought his Taurus. I told him about the bad ammo and he decided to try it in the PT-11, one of the first shots jammed the gun and knocked the external trigger-hammer arm link a little bit away from the gun(the long one parallel to the slide that you can see from outside the gun). From that point on the gun was inoperable. We went home and he came over with his gun. We opened it up, tried to see if we could fix it but there was no way.
That was 6 months ago, he got it back fixed from Taurus last month.

To add insult to injury, he advised his armed security friend to buy the 40 cal version of it. People do not learn sometimes.

PS: my friend is also an armed guard for an armored truck company and that day I told him how to shoot straight lol...what is the world coming to?? He was anticipating the shots so much that his hits were all 10 inches under bullseye at 15. Anyway if he had been in a gunfight that day and happening to use those bullets for some reason, then he could have been dead today because his Taurus PT-11 did not hold together.

Saving money?>>Ruger, like buy a Ruger sr9 instead of a Glock 17 and its fine but a PT11 instead of a Beretta 92 is not. Now I hope my friends friend dont try and get in no gunfight cause he gon get hurt ! Last week he was trying to sell me an unfired PF9 that he had been carrying in his holster for duty for over 2 years ! Just making the point that some guards don't know anything about firearms nor how to shoot them(Im guessing he cant shoot for jack if his "duty" PF9 is unfired) and that is rather sad for them.

BuckeyeBlast

What other experience do you have with the gun? I would never judge a gun based on it's performance w/ gun show home made ziploc bag ammo. There's so many problems here, but no point getting into it.

frenchy

You are right, even though I made it sound like I was judging it I was really just trying to account of that one trip to the range that one day with that particular bullet at that particular second in time in the PT-92. I guess the GP100 I shoot fairly regularly kinda blinds me, standards-wise. As in the gun can take a massive beating and be alive to tell the story. One thing I liked about that PT92 was the chrome look and the picatinny rail. But that accident turned me away from that brand.

Oh by the way I do not like my Beretta 92 anymore since I discoverd that you actuated the safety every time you rack the slide back for a quick reload of the gun. This gun that I liked so much I now cant even think about using it for self defense, duty or whatever. It is fine at the range though... Thats why Iv been looking at the sr9 to replace it, since there is no safety in the way when you rack the slide back.

This might be my gun only though, maybe my safety lever goes down too easily? I do not care anyway, should not be happening and WOULD not be happening if the safety was setup differently. I discovered this flaw at USPSA where your speed of reload is pretty important and your gun at that stage, breaks or makes it.

frenchy

Maybe it is a warning to the bad guy: "you are about to get killed by a stainless firearm" or if you want to give him a chance because he is scared now, you can stamp "stainless" on his forehead so eveyone back in his hood will laugh at him..

Raminator

Or they just stamped it there to let you know that the slide is made of stainless steel instead of aluminum or some other coating painted onto regular blued steel.

Raminator

User error. I've never had this problem during rapid reload drills.

jerchef02

It all comes down to what you are going to be happy with. You can search all the forums you want and you will find the good the bad and the ugly of both brands, so at the end of the day you need to ask yourself what is going to make you happy. As long as the price is not an issue then get what you will be happy with. Do not get a Taurus just b/c it cost less. I have done that, got a Taurus revolver once b/c at the time i could not afford another brand and hated it. Not b/c of function but b/c at the end of the day it was not what I really wanted in the first place. I should have saved a little more got what i wanted. I ended up selling it and lost a little money so lesson learned.
Just my 2 cents.

O yea I have a Beretta 92FS Inox with 1000's of rounds throught it without a single problem.
I have a friend with the Taurus with the about the same round count without a single problem.

KKBMTGG/go army

Totally agree.

leejack

You can't go wrong either way on this one.

The Beretta is an icon and worth more money.

Having said that; I owned a PT99 in the 90's and shot countless trouble free rounds through it. I loved the controls on it.

I thought it was an excellent gun!

Lee

Jkwas

I do know that the taurus uses a metal guide rod and trigger, whereas beretta has gone to plastic.

Not that that's bad or good, just pointing that out. I like them both myself.

timp357

Well said Jerchef02! That's really what it comes down to. Buy the one you will be happy with. Then take it to the range and prove that the gun you bought is 100% reliable. Reputation and expert opinions don't matter when you are in a gun fight. What matters is that the gun you have with you gets the job done.

HVACTECH

I have a PT99 and love it because of the carry options of the safety and to the ammo purchased in a zip lock bag, I would never shoot any ammo someone else has reloaded period. You never know what some idot may brew up in a shell trying to make the super bullet (GUN DESTROYER).

JonRugerInWA

When you visit forums such as M4carbine.net, which has a high proportion of real-world operators, trainers, and industry professionals, it quickly becomes obvious that Beretta is the gun of choice between the two brands.

Beretta's quality of fit, finish, parts quality,quality control and assembly is superior to that of Taurus in my opinion. Taurus has an excellent warranty, but their actual after-market service is reportedly far behind that of Beretta-and my experience with Beretta quality is such that you probably won't experience any aftermarket warranty/repair work.

Yes, Berettas are usually more expensive that Taurus. There are cogent reasons why-beyond the obvious lower cost of Brazilian labor/overhead expenses.

Best, Jon

Pat-inCO

My impression is that the Taurus is fine, but if you like to shoot a lot, the Beretta will make you a bit happier.

stantheman86

I would buy a Taurus PT92 just for range fun, to blast cheap Wolf steel case and save the 1,000's of rounds of wear and tear on my "good" guns

One day my Dad was out with his friend, both riding Harleys. A guy at a rest stop told them "My Honda Black Shadow was $12,000 less than that Road King" and my Dad was like "Yeah,you paid $12,000 less, but I'm the one riding the Harley!"

I had a similar experience shooting my 6" GP100, and along with it, on the bench I had a S&W Model 64. A guy was shooting a Taurus 6" .357 of some flavor, and he's like "Is that an old Smith? I got this Taurus for $200 used" like trying to brag about it, after which, 30 minutes later the action on the Taurus gagged and froze up......probably from the common Taurus issue of too tight cylinder face gap that expands from heat and seizes the gun up........I went over and tried to help him out, pouring some Rem Oil into the action but no dice....and I was like "My Ruger was $400 used, and the S&W was 300......but I'm going home with 2 guns that still work!" I told him after he sends that Taurus back for repair to think about a Ruger

frenchy

I only want to reload using all my fingers around the slide with my left thumb towards me, I do not pinch the slide like I used to do before and I do not want to change my ways, I like it that way better. But sadly the Beretta doesn't allow me to do that... I am making no mistake and if I pinched the slide with thumb and index so that the safety stays on "fire" then the reload is not fast, efficient and reliable for me. I do like the fact that the barrel stays still when firing though, and the comfort of the grip.

BBBBill

Stick to Beretta. The Taurus service (or lack of) is well known. I do prefer the frame mounted safety system of the Taurus, but I've seen at least 6 that were broken or inoperative.