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1911 45ACP Commander length. Best for the $ Out the box?

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Old August 16th, 2009, 09:53 AM   #1
 
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Question 1911 45ACP Commander length. Best for the $ Out the box?

Howdy All,

My next SD purchase will be a Commander Size 1911, Looking for Advice/Experiences and Value/Performance on Steel/Non-Composite Guns. My only current 1911 is a Colt.

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I have a Para LTC, 4-1/4" Commander in aluminum alloy. Makes the pistol about 28 ounces empty. Match barrel, match trigger, Series 80 style mechanism, combat skeletonized hammer and beavertail grip safety and three dot sights, Novak style. It shoots to POA to 25 yards and is far more accurate than I am. Combat accuracy is all I need so that works for me. I can hit a pie plate at 15 yards with all 9 rounds as fast as I can pull the trigger. Comes with a full length guide rod that I've switched back to a standard GI style with standard plug and other than some slim grip panels from Wilson, it's stock.

NIB price was a little over 700 bucks and I've fed it nearly every factory load I can find and can't make it burp. Not one FTF, FTE or other problems in the year and half I've had it. Probably 4000 rounds.

Love the Colts too, just couldn't find one at the time. Para DID make this same pistol in an all steel version as well as in 9mm. Are there better guns out there? Sure enough but not for under a grand!
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Here's my Colt Commander Series 80 Enhanced. I replaced the polymer mainspring housing with a stainless steel housing and installed an extended slide lock and thumb safety set. I also put a set of Pachmayer finger groove grips on it. This pistol has been fired about 10,000 rounds and still shoots like a dream. Very accurate and never malfunctions.

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Iowegan,

You got some of the neatest Toys. Fine looking Pistola. I looked at a Colt was almost $1000. Not sure I can do that again anytime soon.

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Iowegan is a lucky guy.

I tried to find a new Colt last year but found that they aren't approved for sale in MA. Colt refuses to pay the state to get them onto the approved roster and I don't blame them. If I want a Colt 1911, it will have to have been registered in the state prior to 1994.
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This is going to pricy pretty quickly. Sometimes you find a Kimber on sale for less than $1,000, not often. If you look for the "Pro" it is their 4" model, mine is a Eclipse Pro II, There are a lot of other choices, but I like their QC. Right out of the box it shoots great.



as you can see there a lot of other choices.
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Sea Spy, I bought the above Commander brand new in 1994 so I could attend a tactical pistol class. I ran 500 rounds through it without a single malfunction in just the first week. It's been my primary carry piece since then and makes frequent trips to the range for practice. Lucky ... no, just broke.

Muddy Creek Sam, Have you checked into the Colt 1991 series? They are fine guns but without all the goodies. $767 isn't a bad price See: http://www.impactguns.com/store/098289011343.html
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Thumbs up

I'm still jealous!

I'm still looking and a used Colt is fine with me!
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I have had two Springfield Champions, both were great guns and I have since sent them on to friends of mine. I recently picked up a Para LTC Lightweight in 9mm that my youngest son fell in love with so I am back to the gun I have carried daily for the last 5 years, a stainless Wilson Combat Professional. I have used it to compete in several PPC courses and also a Tactical Gun and Defense course. I have over 8000 rounds through it and it has never failed to function. Accuracy is incredible with this gun.


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Nice piece Tex, you just can't go wrong with Wilson Combat. Pricey but worth every penny in my eyes.
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Just because I have two of them, I'll suggest Dan Wesson. The C-BOB (commander-bobtail) is a mighty fine carry gun. When you look at what you are getting for your money, they are a good buy.
Good luck with anything you get. Can't go wrong with a 1911.
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Sam:

I have "more than one" Kimber. I have had (notice the past tense) a Springfield, I have a Colt Delta Elite (10mm), and have a Dan Wesson CBOB (Commander size, bob-tail).

The CBOB is an excellent gun that now runs over $1K. A step back in price (but not quality) is the Kimber Pro Carry. Aluminum frame with steel slide/barrel. I saw one at my dealer this week for $850. I [SIZE="2"]love[/SIZE] the Kimbers. The Pro Carry-HD is an all steel gun that weighs 7oz. more (35 oz for the HD) than the "Stainless" one with the aluminum frame.

Look at the Kimber site for their selection. A good price for one is about $200 - under - MSRP.

Kimber got a reputation for being higher priced, but are now not nearly as high (others have passed them). Every Kimber I have has been in the very good to excellent range, and most are just plain out excellent. Every one has shot point of aim, out of the box, and only one had a minor problem (over tight extractor) which took only a few minutes to fix. I REALLY like them.

Kimber factory service is good, if you try to tell them how to fix anything you don't like. If you ask questions and let them do their job, the service is excellent (there are many tales on the internet about "problems" with Kimber service - every one of them tried to tell Kimber how to fix something).

Very good product, very good service, excellent value. In case you couldn't tell, I like Kimbers for 1911s.

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I agree completely Pat. Great product.
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My favorite carry gun is a plain old blue steel frame Colt Commander. Stock, out of the box except for a Wilson Beavertail grip safety. I bought it 3 years ago, I have about 2000 rounds through it, and it has never malfunctioned.
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I, too really like the CBOB

But I have been pleased with the Springfields and Kimbers I have had too.

But I think bang for the buck, The Dan Wesson CBOB is your very best bet. All steel, no MIM +nightsights, decent trigger etc. For under 1K they are hard to beat.

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