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Old January 19th, 2016, 02:59 PM   #31
 
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It may be unique, but not many people really care about "rare" Charter Arms revolvers, maybe some of the older ones. There's a guy trying to get like $1,000 for one of the original 9mm Federal Rimmed models, I don't think people will be clamoring for that one.

If my .40 5" is solid it will make a nice range shooter since sometimes I can turn up .40 almost as low priced as 9mm, and it is a very shootable and nice gun, when it did work. A set of Pachmayr grips completed it, the factory rubber grips were terrible.

My opinion is spend that $500 on a convertible Blackhawk. I wanted wheelguns in all the "major food groups" calibers, just for fun, if Ruger had an easily obtainable .40 Blackhawk or Vaquero I would have gotten that. Those 38-40 - .40 convertibles are just too rare and expensive.



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I wouldn't get too crestfallen about it, even a 6-shot Charter Arms 9mm revolver 5", seems cooler in theory than in real life.......

Crappy cell phone pic aside, I got my 5" .40 back from Charter today. Looks good, no more forcing cone rubbing on the cylinder face. Note inside says the work done was "replace crane - Test Fired OK". We'll see how it turns out.

I just blew my gun budget, probably for the next few months but I had thought about getting the .40 snub from Charter, but I'm going to wait until I get a few hundred- 1,000 through the 5" before I drop another $450 on a Charter.

It's odd Charter says they are dropping the 5" Pit Bulls, this summer Dee Ecker said they were about to "unveil" a 4.2" .45 ACP version, those would have sold like hotcakes. Unless they are going from 5" to 4.2" for these, I don't know. I'd take a serious look at a 4" .45 ACP Charter revolver, even though I have a .45 ACP Redhawk......

The snub in .45 ACP looked cool but all the reports say it's not too fun as a range gun, and in the same size package, for carry I see no advantage over the .44 Special model if it's gonna be a "carry lots shoot little" type gun.
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I wouldn't get too crestfallen about it, even a 6-shot Charter Arms 9mm revolver 5", seems cooler in theory than in real life.......
A lightweight trail gun with 6 shots, in a powerful caliber, with a barrel length that takes advantage of that capability, and the cheapest and most diverse centerfire ammo available, plus a system that allows firing it without extra parts to cause difficulties... Maybe you wouldnt get CRESTFALLEN about it because you already have a 5" rimless revolver, but the OP doesnt, and neither do I. I think that 5" six shot Pitbull the OP linked to was the perfect combination, and in a rare configuration.



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The snub in .45 ACP looked cool but all the reports say it's not too fun as a range gun, and in the same size package, for carry I see no advantage over the .44 Special model if it's gonna be a "carry lots shoot little" type gun.
My 44 Bulldog is a great range gun. IF I want to shoot 1,000 rounds at the range, the Bulldog and I are certainly up to the task. The problem with 44 Special is there isn't 1,000 rounds available within a 500 mile radius of me, and at $1 a shot, it get pretty expensive after just a couple cylinders. I can buy 45 ACP for around .22 cents a shot, it has roughly the same performance as 44 Special and every gun shop has 45 acp ammo.
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Honestly, I'm saying as an owner of a Pit Bull, you really didn't miss much with that 5" 9mm Pit Bull.

If you must have one I'd grab the next 6-shot you see or at least the 5-shot 5", since Charter says they're dropping them. You never know, they might come back with a 6-shot 4.2" this summer.

The only advantage vs. the similar .357 model is cheaper ammo, and I think it's kind of a toss up since these guns won't have the durability of a Ruger and most of them don't seem to like steel or aluminum case. 9mm Defensive ammo isn't a lot cheaper than .38+P or .357.

Unless you're really concerned about quicker reloading, the 9mm Blackhawk just seems like a far better option. Lots of people MUST have a Double Action, but then never use it in any thing other than SA.

Lots of people think a 9mm SP101 is on the way, but it will use moon clips.


I'm not blown away by the quality of the Charter Pit Bull I have, I don't think it will stand up to hard use with the .40, maybe the 9mm would do better, maybe not. Maybe I'm just soured that after 20 rounds I had to send mine in for repair, I don't know. My .40 may turn out to be a hidden gem, it will take at least 1,000 rounds before I will feel good about it. I took the measurements of the endshake and b/c gap, so I can see if they're still the same after 1-2,000 rounds.

If you're looking for a pistol caliber trail gun, the .45 ACP - LC Vaquero is a FAR better choice, or a .357-9mm Blackhawk convertible, and they're in the same price range as the Charters. After you get good with the SA's they aren't a whole lot slower to reload unless you're planning on getting into a running gun battle........

This is a pic of my 9mm Blackhawk , with a target shot off sandbags at about 15 yards. Had a called "flier" in there, and I've shot this gun tighter, this was with MagTech. This gun is a 6-shot, eats ANY 9mm......steel, aluminum, brass....is accurate enough for the field or trail, and I can shoot it just as fast in aimed fire as I can a DA revolver in deliberate, aimed DA shooting. No moonclips, you can use Glock mags as a "speedloader", practice and you'll reload it pretty quick.I know it will outlast me, and from cheap range ammo to 9mm +P+ it can handle it with ease. Pop in the .357 cylinder in seconds if you need to step up to hot .357 or just have some .38 to shoot....... I'm not seeing a downside in this for a 9mm revolver for any purpose I can think of.

I'm giving my objective opinion, as someone who owns the Charter Pit Bull and also numerous Ruger SA's in 9mm and .45.......if Ruger made a .40 single action I would have bought that instead.

The advantage is, I love revolvers, and the fact that I can buy any of the cheap 9mm, .40 or .45.......since most gun shops will usually have some sort of ammo in at least one of these calibers.
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They exist, I have a 5" .40 Pit Bull......well, I don't "have" it, I had to send it back to Charter, after 20 rounds the gun locked up, the forcing cone was rubbing on the cylinder face and with heat expansion, it locked up.

Charter paid the freight, but they've had it for 2 weeks and I have no idea what's going on with it, I'm going to call them next week.
When you call up Charter, you get to speak with Dee Ecker. Yah, the wife of the guy who owns the company. She knows her stuff, parts and all. I've had a few conversations with her. I was impressed. Its a small outfit, only sixty or so employees, in a small building. Its a bit like the company I work with - size and employee count that is.

I don't think you'll have an issue with Charter.

And... I've been shooting a Pitbull 45 2-1/2 inch for a month or so now, and its great! Smoothed up real nice too. Zero problems.
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Gravedigging.

Lost my job at the beginning of the year, and starting to sell a few firearms I don't shoot much.

What are the rules on this forum for speaking about an armslist listing related to this thread concerning a 5" 6-shot 9mm Pitbull?
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Charter does some experimenting now and then. I read on a forum somewhere that their .22LR Pathfinder was out in an 8-round cylinder and that someone actually received one when they'd ordered a 6-rounder. But the 8-rounder doesn't seem to exist today. I emailed Charter and Dee's reply was that they "did a prototype for 8-shot several years ago. We decided to stick with the original 6-shot. There are no plans to change to an 8-shot."
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