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Old November 15th, 2012, 06:27 AM   #16
 
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Wednesday night I went to Markham to see just how well I could do at 50 yards with the factory rear sight and a Hi-Viz front sight. I started at 50, went to 25, 15, and then back to 50 yards for a final round of 25 shots to see just what I could do. I got five on the target for a twenty percent.


In all fairness to me, there was some slight interference. Above me was a bright light that totally blacked out the glow of the Hi-Viz. I really feel I need to do this again in sunlight.



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Went to Pembroke Range on Monday night and got a few hits at 25 yards after adjusting the rear sight so it is a start. Wednesday night and I will be at Markham to see how well I can do at 50 yards. I'm trying to stay with iron sights but my situation is the rear sight is only in focus part of the time. I think if my arm was three inches longer I would be doing a lot better.

Join the club. I believe as we get older this becomes more pronounced. Here is some good information on shooting technique if you want to take a look at it.
Encyclopedia of Bullseye Pistol
I liked it and printed up a manual with the information.
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In all fairness to me, there was some slight interference. Above me was a bright light that totally blacked out the glow of the Hi-Viz. I really feel I need to do this again in sunlight.
Another reason I've switched to red dots whenever possible - you're not held hostage to lighting conditions the way you are with iron sights, even hi-viz iron sights. Hang in there, you'll get it worked out.
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Another reason I've switched to red dots whenever possible - you're not held hostage to lighting conditions the way you are with iron sights, even hi-viz iron sights. Hang in there, you'll get it worked out.
I am considering a red dot. I have a 2X on my Mini-14. Another reason is I can get the rail for my GP100 for $49 that does not need any drilling. So what would be a good red dot for 50-100 yards on a GP100?
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I have a weigand mount (probably the one you're looking at - see the pic) on my 4" and highly recommend it. My favorite red dot without blowing the bank account on a Trijicon or Aimpoint, is an Ultradot. Still not cheap, but they will hold up to the recoil and are guaranteed for life.

To keep things small and compact, I use the Ultradot 25. Has a 4 MOA dot, which is about right for typical revolver ranges. At 100 yards, though, I usually need the help of a 2x or better scope to keep up with the accuracy potential of my revolver, but a red dot, even at that range, is a big, big improvement over iron for these old eyes.

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Please don't take offense but your targets are a little hard to discern.
They show patterns and not groups, very difficult to say whats going on.
With a proper sight picture and trigger squeeze
( while holding a proper site picture ) that pistol should group at least just outside or into the red target area depending on how steady you hold and release the trigger. If you shoot like that with irons I doubt you will see much of an improvement with a scope. Everything you are doing wrong now will be magnified with a scope. unless there is a bad eye problem and you are just not seeing things clearly. the target will never be clear with just using your eyes. it's impossible for the eyes to be focused on three different objects
the front site is the main point of focus, the site picture MUST not change during let off of the trigger. If the shooting technique is wrong a scope will not help.
once again so I don't get flamed, if it's an eye problem the scope may help, or even a devise that goes on your glasses, shooting or Rx they can improve the site picture greatly and clear it up. Without my glasses my pistol iron sights are very blurred,
I still shoot better than most with 20/20 eyes, why ? because what I see does not change as the trigger drops, heavy triggers are a very big part of missing targets, the site picture changes as the finger triggers battles with the heavy trigger.
Optimizing for 50 and 100 yards, You were asked what your intentions were. Target shooting ? hunting ? Optimizing can mean different things to different folks. Dead on target ain't gonna happen at different distances.
We sometimes talk about point blank range, that is the range your bullet will be in a kill zone for different size targets. It goes like this:
Lets say a Deers kill zone behind the shoulder is an 8'' circle. So you zero your weapon at 50 yards for a dead center hit inside the 8" circle.
You do some testing and shoot at that target at 10 yards and find your someplace inside the 8" target, then you shoot at 25 yards and your still inside the 8" circle, we no we will be dead on at 50 cause that's how we sighted the gun in. you keep moving the target out until your shots fall out of the 8" kill zone and that is your point blank range. If they fall out at 150 yards your point blank range would be from just about in front of the gun out to about 150 yards. that means you can deliver a kill shot on game with a dead on hold out to that distance, point blank range
The flatter your bullet shoots the longer the PBR will be.
If you just site in for one distance, say 50 yards, there is no way you will get dead on hits at different yardage, close, yes, but not dead on, not without holdover or MOA adjustment in a scope. Ain't gonna happen.
My sugjestion, and it's only a sugjestion, would be to spend some time and close up those bullet hits. Shoot off a sand bag with a good steady hold, a site picture that stays on target and a perfected trigger squeeze.
Shoot that way at 10 yards and don't increase the distance until all shots are hitting the same place, that is a very - very tite group. At that distance it should be one ragged hole. Not to worry if they are a little off the bulls eye,
unless your site picture is off that can be corrected by moving the sites or the correct site picture. This tells you two things, 1 your pistol and ammo shoot well and your doing things correctly. Don't take a 10 yard distance lightly, you would be surprised how many people can't do it.
When you master that move out a little till your groups open up, then stay at that distance till you master it. If you shoot one hole groups off the bag at 10 yards and then shoot 10 yards free hand and miss or shoot less accurately ( who or what you gonna blame ? ) it sure ain't the pistol, not if it shot good off the bag.

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I used to have a 9.5" Super Redhawk back in the late 80s with a 4X Burris LER scope on it. I would take a bunch of clays with me and I would scatter them on the backstop behind the 100 yard target line. I could break those clays all day long off a sandbag rest. Sighted in at 100 yards, it would shoot about 4 inches high at 50 yards using 240 gr jacketed rounds. That revolver was stupidly accurate. The scope would come right off with the 2 thumbscrews on the rings so I could shoot open at 25 yards or less. That's one revolver I regret selling....
Thanks for posting that! I haven't shot my SRH 9.5 for a while now. I even thought about having it cut down.
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