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Old May 16th, 2017, 01:42 PM   #1
 
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Hello..brand new member here...Need some expert thoughts/advise. Just purchased mini 14 ser # 186-xxxxx...obviously not tapped. Purchased from an estate sale & according to the seller...never fired..had to clean it up ...quite a bit of grease though. Anyway what would be the best scope mount setup...my peepers are not what they used to be. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!



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Old May 16th, 2017, 05:33 PM   #2
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Dads, first of all, welcome to the forum from Central Virginia.

You basically have two options: a funky side-mounted rig that replaces the bolt hold-open cover, or a scout rail such as UltiMak or Amega. My 181-series sports the funky side mount - something I got through Amazon before I learned about the UltiMak. It has a picatinny rail, so you can put on either a scope or a red-dot. The two attached pics are the same rifle, but in different stocks. One with a TRS-25 red dot, one with a UTG 3-9X32 CQB AO scope.

The optic sits pretty high: chin-weld height. The mount is simple to install, but they will work loose unless you use copious amounts of blue loctite on every screw (I speak from experience on that). You may be challenged with a scope sitting over the receiver because the early Mini-14s (non-Ranch) - like yours and mine, were not intended to have a scope and the brass ejected more vertically than horizontally - often striking the scope: usually the windage knob. My particular Mini only does that every once in a while, and it is usually just a glancing blow. But every Mini is different. The one advantage of it over a scout rail is that you can use either the optic or the irons, without having to remove the optic. If you have/get a standard scope with a cross reticle and only a windage and elevation knob, you can rotate the scope 90 degrees counterclockwise - making the windage knob the elevation and the elevation knob the windage. That gets the windage knob out of the way of the ejects.

The UltiMak scout rail replaces the hand guard. It is affixed to the barrel and the gas block. It sits low and also has a picatinny rail. It is ideal for a red-dot. For a scope, you would need to get either a scout scope or a pistol scope - both with long eye relief. The advantages are several: 1) it keeps the optic low so you can use a cheek weld; 2) it helps stiffen the barrel (important for your and my models), and 3) it aids in cooling. The Amega rail mounts in a similar fashion but sits a bit higher (has a channel in the middle so you can still use irons without an optic).

Had I to do it all over again and knowing what I know now, I would have gone the UltiMak route. I am still considering getting an UltiMak for my Mini, but don't shoot it enough to justify the cost (besides, I have a new Mini that is tapped).

Both options are 100% reversible, so should you change your mind, you can go back to original.

Note that your 186 Mini has a "pencil barrel" that, when heated up, may tend to start slinging rounds hither and yon - usually vertically. Newer Minis have a thicker, tapered barrel that pretty much solved that challenge. For older Minis, one can mount a barrel strut (most popular is the AccuStrut) that mounts to the gas block and the bottom of the barrel. It reduces the slinging dramatically and also helps cool the barrel (it is also reversible). Every Mini is different, and my particular 181 Mini does fine without a strut (about 4 MOA) - good enough for my intended uses. I don't hunt or shoot paper - just plink.

Hope this helps! Do a good cleaning before firing, and stick with Ruger factory mags (they aren't cheap, but very reliable).
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great

Thank you sir...I will look into these...probably should have waited for a newer model...but I had one of these back in the early 80's and well to be honest... got a little sentimental.
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Dads, not a problem. The early models can be made into great shooters.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Trop.../dp/B00CIY7JAU
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Ruger Mini-14 "Scout" Scope Mount
Amega Mounts Home page
http://accu-strut.com/

Should you choose to pursue a scout rail, shop around: prices vary.

Can't help you with a long-eye-relief scope. If you go that route, be wary of its size (smaller is better). You probably don't need a 9-power scope.
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Is it not cut for the Ruger proprietary mounts?

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Is it not cut for the Ruger proprietary mounts?

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Nope, not the older 186- series rifles.
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