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This is a discussion on Ballistol... within the Maintenance forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; Originally Posted by leroy . Balistol appears (...at least to me...) to be a vegetable based oil. Appearances can be deceiving, if I remember correctly ...


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Old December 30th, 2011, 10:22 AM   #16
 
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. Balistol appears (...at least to me...) to be a vegetable based oil.
Appearances can be deceiving, if I remember correctly it is a coal derivative



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Old December 30th, 2011, 11:56 AM   #17
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Here ya go ...

http://www.baileysonline.com/msds_sh.../ballistol.PDF
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"Ballistol is based on medicinal grade white mineral oil"... mineral meaning non-vegetable.
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Good stuff...here's more about it...

http://www.ballistol.com/1_Ballistol...r%20PROOF3.pdf
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Appearances can be deceiving, if I remember correctly it is a coal derivative
Did a bit of research just for the fun of it. Here it is:

Lifted this from the MSDS:
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....Ballistol contains medicinal grade mineral oil, alkaline salts of oleic acid, several alcohols, Benzyl Acetate and an oil from vegetal seeds. The mineral oil is unchlorinated and conforms to the specifications of US Pharmacopeia XX. ....
I added the emphasis. Oleic acid is definitely a vegetable/animal fat. Lifted this from a description:
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..Oleic acid is a monounsaturated fatty acid found naturally in many plant sources and in animal products. It is an omega-nine fatty acid, and considered one of the healthier sources of fat in the diet. ...
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Benzyl acetate:
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...Benzyl acetate is an organic compound with the molecular formula C9H10O2. It is the ester formed by condensation of benzyl alcohol and acetic acid.

Benzyl acetate is found naturally in many flowers. It is the primary constituent of the essential oils from the flowers jasmine, ylang-ylang and tobira.
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By the way, when ya see "essential oils", that's a code word for stuff used in women's cosmetics. It's good for the skin (...supposidely, HEHE...). It is good for sellin stuff to the more beautimus among us. Both the benzyl acetate and "medical mineral oil" fit the essential oil category.

Mineral oil is a petroleum derivative, but is used in foods and cosmetics (...baby oil has mineral oil...). Wouldn't be a bit suprized if "good' mineral oil comes from coke production.

Looks to me to be a suspension of animal fats, vegetable oils, alcohols, and mineral oil. When i mix up the black powder cleaner for my percussion revolvers, i use two of these ingredients, soap (....oleic acid...) and alcohol. When i swipe down the barrels with bore butter; i bet i use oleic acid again. That's why this stuff works so well on black powder firearms. It's also a long way from the old timey petroleum based "machine oil" that we used to use on sewing machines.

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Thanks for the added research, looks like they've got a bit of everything in there
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I may have misunderstood, so forgive me for asking, but you shot several bricks of ammo through a couple of .22 pistols without cleaning (apparently from the "turned to varnish" observation) and parts broke and it was the lube's fault?


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I shoot a lot wo cleaning much for a variety of reasons. A couple of .22 bricks, my 2 Ruger bulls, a 4" and a 5.5", both SS, 14 mags and a clip loader heat up the guns pretty good. The Mobile-1 seems to work better on the stainless than Ballistol.

Any better ideas? I'm open to any and all ideas and if there is a "best way" to care and feed ss Ruger Mark IIs, by all means, LMK.
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I shoot a lot wo cleaning much for a variety of reasons.
I'd really like to know some of those variety of reasons
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Seriously? I tried to dance around it, but here goes. My beautiful Wife has end stage cancer, 5 types. We lost our house and now we're in a smaller place. I don't care to annoy her with different oils, solvents, etc. and my shooting is a bit of an escape, a guilty pleasure. .22s so it's not so expensive so that's what i shoot.

Mobile-1 doesn't smell too bad, so it's waht I use. Hopps and Ballistol have a bit of a heavy odor. Plus, I'm apathetic as heck. Used to care and there's other priorities now. I want to get as much shooting in as I can with the least ammount of effort.

Any ideas on the most bang for the buck out of these guns is welcome, again, for a variety of reasons.
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I can understand now what you're saying, I guess that's a way to test a lube, but I doubt if any are designed for that kind of treatment.
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I tried it on the ram on my RCBS Rockchucker press and wasn't impressed with the results. Maybe someone can help me understand if I just picked the wrong application for it.

I cleaned the oil from the ram, applied the Ballistol and it worked Ok for a short time period. But soon it began to chatter from lack of lubrication. So I went back to using motor oil on the ram. I use the press mostly for depriming my brass. But I am careful to brush the deposits away as they are forming. So it really didn't get that much primer pocket residue. Due to the this experience I haven't used it on any firearms yet.
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It is what it is, fungun.

I sent an e-mail to Weapon Shield and got a free sample oiler pen with a needle applicator that looks pretty sweet. My plan for tonight is to stuff myself with food and drink, pull out a big, stinky cigar and clean some guns. This Weapon Shield looks OK, so expect my torture test results in 3 months or so. Happy New Year y'all

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My plan for tonight is to stuff myself with food and drink, pull out a big, stinky cigar and clean some guns.

Save one of those Hemingways for me.
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Thanks leroy, great post. Sounds like I have a little of that oleic acid around my middle.
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Lotsa maduro in there, huh Larry? I've been aging these for years. LMK when you get to St. Pete. We'll herf!



This is the S&W lube. No varnish, stopage due to carbon on barrel and breech faces caused light strikes. Yeah, I've done this for a while. I ,like the OP, saw Hickok's vid on lube and tried the stuff. {I think Hickok is great btw}. It works fine on poly guns that you basically run dry, I guess. A tiny drop of anything would be fine.

You wouldn't put Ballistol in your 'Vett crankcase would you? Hell's Bells, I've got lube that was used on the space shuttle for crying out loud. If you need a real lube, you don't need Ballistol.
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