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Old October 21st, 2011, 10:13 AM   #1
 
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CLP and Polymer frames

Called Ruger today just to ask if its ok to use Breakfree CLP on the P95, there response was as follows, You can use CLP on the slide and barrel, but not on the frame, they recomended to use Birchwood Casey Stock Refinishing Cleaner, on the frame, I then asked if its ok to lube the slide rails with the Breakfree, and really didnt get a straight answer, so I called Glock up and asked them the same question on the Glock 27, they told me I can use Breakfree CLP on any part of there pistols, and if you read in the Glock manual, they do say to use a solvent soaked patch to clean the frame if necessary, so, my question still is, can I use Breakfree on the slide rails and not damage the polymer rails on the frame? I thought you could use CLP on any type of firearm, any suggestions? Breakfree CLP and Balistol both are safe for plastics if you read the can.



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I use Break Free brand CLP on all of my HK pistols (all of them w/ polymer frame) and have for years. I also use it for my LCR .38 I called Break Free's customer service a short time ago and they said it IS PERFECTLY SAFE for polymer surfaces...a question they frequently receive. DO NOT use their Powder Blast for polymer. DO NOT - that's only for the barrel! It could destroy the finish of the polymer if left on it. HK cust svc even told me CLP is not necessary on the polymer anyway. Just a few drops of oil on the steel rails milled into the polymer frame. After using the CLP on the frame, I quickly wipe it clean (utilizing it more as a cleaner than lub) and spray the excess out of the trigger group with an air can, like Dust Off, then wipe. Polymer used on firearms is designed to withstand high impact and extreme temperatures, but not super-corrosive solvents. Again, I have had no issues in several years w/ Break Free's CLP. The Birchwood Casey Stock Refinishing Cleaner would be just as good as an option I'm sure; Ruger may just have it's own preference for cleaners/lubes, as many of us do! Many of my fellow HK junkies use Weaponshield.

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Old October 21st, 2011, 01:09 PM   #3
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CLP chemically bonds with metal, providing a lasting lubricant.

Doesn't react the same way with plastic. Probably won't harm the frame, but I suspect just slides off without much effect.

If you've added it to the metal rails that's about all the lubrication you'll get from it, but that's enough.

I usually ad a dab of Moly Grease to rails on metal to metal surfaces. I put it on polymer too, although since it binds with the metal it probably only lubricate the surfaces until it wears off. Probably overkill, but I haven't had any breakdowns!

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I use white lithium grease for lube on the slide/frame contact points, works great. The frame doesnt really get dirty enough to need any harsh cleaner IMO, just a little oil and a cloth and its clean.
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I have been using BreakFree CLP on both my MKIII 22/45 (polymer frame) and my P95 which you already know is polymer. I have been using it for every cleaning since I purchased the two firearms and have had no ill effects. As a reference point, the MKIII 22/45 is approaching 20, 000 rounds fired and a whole lot of cleanings but the P95 only has about 5,000 rounds through her. I clean the P95 after each range trip and that equates to about 25 to 30 cleanings including the first pre-use cleaning. No problems!

I use the CLP for everything except lead/copper fouling and wood and I have used it to lube the rail at every cleaning. CLP trade documentation declares the product in liquid form to be safe for most plastics but, in your case, the P95 is a know type and it works great. Love the firearm, by the way. Hope that helps!
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Been using on all of mine for years just in case you need another opinion.
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Called Ruger today just to ask if its ok to use Breakfree CLP on the P95, there response was as follows, You can use CLP on the slide and barrel, but not on the frame, they recomended to use Birchwood Casey Stock Refinishing Cleaner, on the frame, I then asked if its ok to lube the slide rails with the Breakfree, and really didnt get a straight answer, so I called Glock up and asked them the same question on the Glock 27, they told me I can use Breakfree CLP on any part of there pistols, and if you read in the Glock manual, they do say to use a solvent soaked patch to clean the frame if necessary, so, my question still is, can I use Breakfree on the slide rails and not damage the polymer rails on the frame? I thought you could use CLP on any type of firearm, any suggestions? Breakfree CLP and Balistol both are safe for plastics if you read the can.
Should not be a problem. If you have access to an ultrasonic cleaner use one part vinager to 4 parts water. run it for 10 min. rinse and dry. The frames come out clean. I do all my gun parts this way as well as my brass. It is a good way to save money.
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Thanks for all the infomation guys, its appreciated. On my way out to get some Breakfree CLP.
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Have used Gun Scrubber and Break Free CLP on my LCP and noticed that the Scrubber left a white color to the polymer but went back to near normal after the LCP. I have just ordered Froglube and have been assured that not only will it not harm the polymer but will also moistureize and protect it. We will see!
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I contacted Ruger customer support last week about using Breakfree CLP on my P95, his reply was, it can be used on the slide and barrel, but not on the polymer frame, something about the amonia that is in CLP, as said in my previous post above, so I contacted Breakfree, and basically the lady told me the same, there is about 5% amonia in the C part of the CLP as she explained it to me, also she told me not to leave the CLP on my nickle finished S&W 29-2 to long, 15 minutes or less, but it safe to use on all other metal surfaces, just some finishes you have to watch, she said to find a place, like under the grips to test it to see if any reaction occurs, especally on the camo finishes on some shotguns, but she also stated it depends on how the finish was applied and the quality of said finish. I have always used Breakfree on my AR's but never on my handguns, so I just asked these people, and they were very informative, if you are not sure, call or email the gun manfactures or the gun cleaning company, they will tell you everything you need to know. Thanks for all your replies guys.

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I use CLP on all my weapons. I'm more concerned keeping it off wood then the plastic.
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...something about the amonia that is in CLP, as said in my previous post above, so I contacted Breakfree, and basically the lady told me the same, there is about 5% amonia in the C part of the CLP as she explained it to me...
Hmmm. Just looked at the MSDS for Break-Free CLP, and didn't see any ammonia listed...

http://www.tompkins-co.org/msds/m2291.pdf

That said, I've found Break-Free CLP to be an average lubricant/cleaner... nothing special on either front, but acceptable if you have the need for something like it. I find it's good to have in hunting camp, for a simple field- use lube/cleaner. For a good bore scrub after a range session, I've been using the Shooter's Choice solvent, JB bore paste, and lubricating with Lucas synthetic gun oil.

I will be looking into Ballistol and Gunzilla, though.
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Firescout,

Yea I checked into the CLP from Breakfree, but when I called Breakfree, the lady I talked to told me there is 5% amonia in the C part of CLP, just going by what she said, my brother uses Ballistol on everything, it works great! I have switched from Breakfree to ballistol, also if you didnt know, you can use ballistol on all your blackpowder guns, with out all the other stuff thats a hassel to use, disolves everything and neutralizes all the powder residue, great product!
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i see no reason why clp would harm a frame. been using it on my xd9,&1911 for a while now. 3300 trouble free rounds. i use it to clean the frame all the time, i wipe it off though with q tips and patches, and don't let it accumulate except on the rails, barrel shroud, & the last inch of the barrel where it rubs with the frame during cycling.
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