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Old January 11th, 2017, 04:48 AM   #1
 
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Mark IV Hunter Cleaning Only

I recently purchased the Mark IV Hunter (Stainless Steel). The owners manual directs you to Rugers website to view a video specific for the Mark IV. Long short, after many days of searching, I could not find it. The manual is very vague. I called Ruger and they realized there is an error and they will try and upload the video ASAP. In the mean time, I have read days worth of threads regarding how to clean this Stainless Steel pistol. I have other pistols, none of which are stainless, so Iím afraid to use the wrong product and ruin the bore and gun finish etc. I currently use Hoppes Elite for the bores then follow up on the entire gun with Breakfree CLP via use of bore brushes and jags with patches. I also have Hoppes #9 that I never used. I do NOT use Boresnakes, so please donít bother turning this thread into a debate over that. Im only interested in how to clean the Mark IV stainless and with what solvents etc, especially, what NOT to use. Thank you for your time.



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Old January 11th, 2017, 06:54 AM   #2
 
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Special stainless solvents? You may be making this more complicated than it has to be.
I've been using the same potions and elixirs for carbon and stainless both with no harm done that I'm aware of. I have heard and heed the caution about using anything with ammonia in it on chrome plated stuff, but nothing about stainless.

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I have three stainless firearms and I use the same solvents that I use on my blued steel ones. Been doing it for 30+ years on one with nary a problem.
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"I currently use Hoppes Elite for the bores then follow up on the entire gun with Breakfree CLP via use of bore brushes and jags with patches. I also have Hoppes #9 that I never used."

As stated in my OP, thats what I have been using on my blue steel, what are you guys using on your stainless?
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Oh, I will be happy to stick with what I currently have if its safe,, I am just not sure, looking for solvent feedback,, thanks
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For a stainless Vaquero I'm using Ballistol for cleaning, lubrication and anti corrosion. This because handguns can be and are carried on the body and Ballistol is non-toxic and the 45 Colt is a black powder cartridge and may be loaded with same and Ballistol is simpatico with the dark, sooty side of life.

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Stainless won't be damaged by the products you're using. I really can't think of any cleaner that will harm a stainless Ruger. Mine's a MKII and has been cleaned with just about everything. Brake Cleaner , Ed's Red Bore cleaner and those are pretty intense cleaners....nothing has hurt it so far.
Carry on with Elite and CLP you will be just fine.
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Thank you for the feedback sir,,,,
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Ok, well new cleaning issue:

I just shot the gun last night and cleaned it today. During the cleaning process I found that after I ran the bore brush down the barrel about 10 times I looked in at the feed ramp area and found ALOT of metal shavings. Long story short I found that the Hopes cleaning kit rod which is Aluminum (I believe) had lengthy and noticeable swirl marks in it from running down the barrel and following the rifling. I could even feel the surface of the cleaning rod and a noticeable depression on those runs. This of course is unacceptable. There is a noticeable chamfer at the barrel but I suppose the edging still has enough edge on it to shave the cleaning rod. My next thought was to but a Carbon fiber cleaning rod (expensive for such a long barrel), but if the barrel edge is capable of shaving the aluminum, wouldn't it also shave the Carbon fiber material. I realize someone is going to chime and suggest a bore snake but that would be a last resort for me but it might lead to that? Shavings in the gun from cleaning,,,, not good!
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I believe you can get a bore guide for it to keep the rod centered.

An aluminum rod will not cause harm to a steel barrel unless it is impregnated with grit or something.

And, if your rod is rubbing against the lands that hard, you might be doing something wrong. Try slowing down and keep your eyes on the rod; you should be able to hold it reasonably straight without rubbing against the inside of the barrel like that.

If the problem is your patch/jag combo is too tight and causing the rod to bow, try using a smaller or thinner patch.
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I am looking into Carbon Fiber right now I think. The Hoppes Aluminum rod diameter does not leave much room for error when cycling the rod in and out. Hence the rod brushing up against the breech end of the barrel. Trying to get all those shavings out of the feed ramp area was very difficult. I am very particular and had no intention of leaving any aluminum residue/chips behind. The rod was not bending or anything of the sort. The brushes and patches on the Jag went through with just the right amount of resistance. The Mark IV barrlel is just long enough that you can not use a pistol rod on it as it will not reach the end of the barrel. Tipton makes a 24", Hoppes makes a 36". Only concern with Carbon Fiber it seems is the potential that if it snaps for any reason while your applying reasonable force, you are very likely to impale yourself very badly.
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Your overkill light should be flashing. Check out Dewey rods...

Pistol Kits | J Dewey Rods
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For a stainless Vaquero I'm using Ballistol for cleaning, lubrication and anti corrosion. This because handguns can be and are carried on the body and Ballistol is non-toxic and the 45 Colt is a black powder cartridge and may be loaded with same and Ballistol is simpatico with the dark, sooty side of life.
When in doubt use Ballistol! In fact use it all the time.
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Your overkill light should be flashing. Check out Dewey rods...

Pistol Kits | J Dewey Rods
maybe,,,, just dont think all of those aluminum shavings are beneficial to be floating around. Actually thought i got all the debri out until i took an air gun to it last night. I ordered carbon fiber last night
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I really do not see why everyone is so obsessed about cleaning.22's. I have a stainless Mk III and a 1951 vintage semi auto and all I do is wipe them down after shooting and occasionally pull through the bore a patch to get the loose stuff out. My bore "rod" of choice is a length of 80 lb test braid with a loop to secure the patch. Pull that sucker through once or twice and sh'e good to go. To my knowledge the old blued gun has NEVER been taken apart and I can for sure vouch that the stainless one hasn't been taken apart either and I've owned it for quite a while.
I was all excited about the new Mk IV with the easy take down until I realized that I had never taken down my Mk III or the old blued one Now it's meh...
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