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Old December 19th, 2016, 07:22 AM   #1
 
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How much lube is too much?

I turned 21 the beginning of November, got my CCW permit, and 2 firearms, a Ruger LCP for ccw and a Sr22 for target practice. Will be adding to the budding collection again soon the addiction has set in.

I am the first generation since my great grandfather to own firearms, grandpa was in the army but never saw combat, never carried or owned a firearm after that, which also carried over to my father. I've done about 2 years of research, and I'm proficient in gun handling and technique, safety, cleaning, and shooting, especially considering I never had anyone to teach me anything. I can completely knock out the red circle about the size of a quarter on a target at 20 feet.I have put 300 rounds through my LCP and just of yesterday, 2000 rounds through my SR22 pistol, and looking back on my firearm log, it will be a month and two days since I've owned the sr22, I desperately need a membership to my local range.

I understand everything, except how to lube my guns. I use breakfree CLP, and hoppes 9. I use BF CLP liberally applied to a nylon brush to clean and scrub everything, let it sit for a few minutes, wipe off with a rag, and then detail clean with q-tips. Q-tips come off slightly gray if not clean. I run a hoppes 9 soaked patch through the bore, let it sit, I then use a bristle brush coated in BF CLP, do it again but the brush soaked in hoppes 9, and then again with a hoppes 9 soaked patch, then dry until it comes out white, and then coat the inside of the bore with a patch that's been very lightly oiled with CLP.

For lube, I used to use hoppes gun oil, but I found that too runny. I moved to CLP for nearly everything, and after cleaning, I notice that all the parts have a very thin film of CLP, and I'm assuming that's the lube part of the CLP, but I don't feel comfortable leaving just that film, so I saturate one end of a q-tip in BF CLP, and use that to spread the CLP around the slide, and get it everywhere, except the firing pin channel and breech face. I then saturate the other end of the q-tip and use that to spread CLP around the receiver, starting with the top slide rails that show the most wear, then the slide rails themselves, and then the outside of the barrel. I then reassemble the gun and cycle the slide several times, take it down again, wipe away any crud that worked itself out, reassemble and put it in the safe. Both my LCP and sr22 have not had any malfunctions, past their respective break in periods what so ever since I've started using BF CLP or the way I clean/lube, although once in 200 rounds yesteday in the SR22, I do have to strike the primer of a 22lr round again, and then it fires, this happens very occasionally, but I chalk that up to the mass and cheap production of 22lr and not the gun.

Should I apply the CLP the way I'm doing it or wipe off the excess with a dry patch or q-tip or rag?

Let me know your opinions, sorry for the text wall.
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Old December 19th, 2016, 07:40 AM   #2
 
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First off, welcome from a fellow Wisconsinite.

As for lubricating guns, the first thing to understand is that oil on guns serves two purposes, lubrication, and protection from rust. Guns "need" very little, if any lubrication, and a tiny bit of oil on a gun that is stored will serve perfectly to keep steel from rusting.

Most gun makers put lubrication instructions in their owners manuals. Those instructions usually involve putting tiny drops of oil on a few tiny spots on the gun.

Your guns are not internal combustion motors and they are not reciprocating machines, they will not be harmed at all by a lack of oil.
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[humor attempt warning] If it ain't dripping you need more lube.
Seriously it sounds like you are doing it right. I have experimented with various lubes through the years and found several that work for my situation and a lot that don't. My general practice is I use a light grease on metal to metal slides. I wipe away any excess after cycling the weapon. "Plastic guns" get good old Hoppe's oiling. It has never failed or solidified over time. Best wishes and keep shooting.
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I'm a little unclear the order in which you use CLP & Hoppes. If I understand correctly, it appears you use CLP, then an application of Hoppes, ending with a re-application of CLP. I suppose there is nothing wrong with doing maintenance in this order; however, keep in mind that Hoppes is primarily just a cleaner. As long as you finish the cleaning process with a layer of gun oil or CLP, you should be OK. As far as how much lube should remain, the best answer is what the product's instructions say. The second best answer is a thin film throughout, with a slightly thicker coat where metal comes in contact with metal. You might also consider a thin layer of gun grease on the slide of both the LCP and SR22. Mine like that very much.
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Depends on the pistol type

Some pistols like Glock require very little lube, other like 1911, Luger P08 and Walther P38 need a good amount of lube to operate at peak efficiency. It sounds like what you're doing is fine (perhaps leaning to the "too much" side).
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Sounds like you are using plenty. I'd wipe everything down with a slightly damp (oil) rag after cleaning and call it good. Remember oil attracts dirt, dirt is grit and grit causes wear. I also clean after I shoot.
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I turned 21 the beginning of November, got my CCW permit, and 2 firearms, a Ruger LCP for ccw and a Sr22 for target practice. Will be adding to the budding collection again soon the addiction has set in.

I am the first generation since my great grandfather to own firearms, grandpa was in the army but never saw combat, never carried or owned a firearm after that, which also carried over to my father. I've done about 2 years of research, and I'm proficient in gun handling and technique, safety, cleaning, and shooting, especially considering I never had anyone to teach me anything. I can completely knock out the red circle about the size of a quarter on a target at 20 feet.I have put 300 rounds through my LCP and just of yesterday, 2000 rounds through my SR22 pistol, and looking back on my firearm log, it will be a month and two days since I've owned the sr22, I desperately need a membership to my local range.

I understand everything, except how to lube my guns. I use breakfree CLP, and hoppes 9. I use BF CLP liberally applied to a nylon brush to clean and scrub everything, let it sit for a few minutes, wipe off with a rag, and then detail clean with q-tips. Q-tips come off slightly gray if not clean. I run a hoppes 9 soaked patch through the bore, let it sit, I then use a bristle brush coated in BF CLP, do it again but the brush soaked in hoppes 9, and then again with a hoppes 9 soaked patch, then dry until it comes out white, and then coat the inside of the bore with a patch that's been very lightly oiled with CLP.

For lube, I used to use hoppes gun oil, but I found that too runny. I moved to CLP for nearly everything, and after cleaning, I notice that all the parts have a very thin film of CLP, and I'm assuming that's the lube part of the CLP, but I don't feel comfortable leaving just that film, so I saturate one end of a q-tip in BF CLP, and use that to spread the CLP around the slide, and get it everywhere, except the firing pin channel and breech face. I then saturate the other end of the q-tip and use that to spread CLP around the receiver, starting with the top slide rails that show the most wear, then the slide rails themselves, and then the outside of the barrel. I then reassemble the gun and cycle the slide several times, take it down again, wipe away any crud that worked itself out, reassemble and put it in the safe. Both my LCP and sr22 have not had any malfunctions, past their respective break in periods what so ever since I've started using BF CLP or the way I clean/lube, although once in 200 rounds yesteday in the SR22, I do have to strike the primer of a 22lr round again, and then it fires, this happens very occasionally, but I chalk that up to the mass and cheap production of 22lr and not the gun.

Should I apply the CLP the way I'm doing it or wipe off the excess with a dry patch or q-tip or rag?

Let me know your opinions, sorry for the text wall.
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first welcome to this fine forum from the great state of WA. Next, all your products are great, however, you are using too many with similar functions. CLP is very good and can fill most of your tasks. another great one is ballistol. I have found it superior to clean bore and remove crud everywhere in my firearms give it a try. Next switch from qtips to cosmetic swabs ( you can get them in a cosmetics area of stores like walmart and target. They are superior to qtips because they are woven and don't leave behind fibers or unravel. Apply any products liberally, let sit a few minutes and then wipe (or if you have one blow off with compressor) in the bore swab out with a patch trying to leave the thinnest of films. lastly, wipe of the outside before storing or carrying with one of the rags you used to absorb the product from the insides, then wipe with a clean cloth, this will prevent external rust if you live in a moist climate. Good luck, good shooting and be safe.
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Thanks all for the replies. Sounds like I'm doing it right, maybe leaning to the "a little too much" side of it, but that can be easily fixed. I think I'll keep doing what I'm doing, cycle the slide, take it apart, wipe off any gunk that worked it way out, wipe off the excess with a q-tip or a patch on the parts with no wear marks and be done with it. From what I'm hearing that should be enough, maybe just leave more on the wear areas and wipe off the excess everywhere else. Or just wet a patch with CLP and use that for lube, that might keep too much from pooling around.

To sailmotion, I may have typed it wrong, I use hoppes 9 on a patch to coat the bore, let it soak for a bit, use a bore brush soaked in hoppes 9, this is mostly just to loosen up the carbon and lead and everything else, sometimes put some CLP on the bore brush if I feel like it, wet another patch with hoppes 9 run that through the bore, and then dry patches until they come out clean and then use hoppes gun oil or CLP on a patch to lube the bore.
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Welcome to the forum!

It sounds like you use an awful lot of lube and in my opinion, much too much.

Here's how I clean and lube my revolver:

CLEANING: Hoppe's #9 and appropriate brushes, patches, and jags for the bore and cylinders. Clean other parts of the action as necessary with a clean rag or brushes if needed and some Hoppe's #9. Wipe it off. Done.

LUBE: A patch with a drop of light gun oil on it through the bore to coat the barrel. Take a clean cloth or patch and apply 4 or 5 DROPS of oil on it. Use this to wipe down the gun and parts. This is all you need. You can, if you so wish, use CLP instead of gun oil.

I do the same with my pistols.

A silicone impregnated cotton cloth is nice for an occasional wipe down.

Too much lube and you will get dust and lint building up on it not to mention powder residue. These things, when mixed with oil, create an abrasive paste that can wear a gun down before its age.

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I carry an LCP everyday, sometimes in a IWB holster, sometimes in a pocket holster and my experience is this...go absolute MINIMUM on the lube on the LCP!....it will attract every bit of dirt,dust and pocket lint imaginable! and you really don't want that possibly causing a FTF or jam, on the SR22 I would likely use just a lite to medium coating, .22s are naturally dirty and the more you shoot the more likely you will have build up of carbon and dirt with a heavy application of lube.
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Let the gun tell you where to put the lubricant. Look for the rub marks, the other places, that can corrode, just get a thin, barely there film.
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Thanks all for the replies, looks like I'm putting too much lube on. I think I will do what I'm doing with the CLP, but only lube where there are wear marks, where the gun is telling me it needs lube, and keep it to a light film. Ill still apply it with a q-tip, but then wipe off the excess with a rag after it's had a moment to sit.

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The only gun I over lube is the 1911. Seems mine like to be pretty wet!
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This reminds me of a person shopping at an exclusive store .... if you have to ask how much the item cost, you probably can't afford it. In this case, if you ask how much lube is too much, likely you are using way too much. Rather than typing the same information again .... take a look at post #11 in this thread: Wheel Bearing Grease
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357mag, Hey There, Welcome to the Forum.
Hope you have Good Luck with the SR22.
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