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Old February 1st, 2010, 10:03 AM   #1
 
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Red Head Safes

OK, my other thread on safes was getting a little long and I have kinda narrowed it down to the Bass Pro Red Head safe. My question is, how many have this brand and what are the pro's and con's of them? I'm sure there are some that are satisfied and others that are not, but let me hear why for both sides. Still looking at the 60x30x22+ size. I like the fact you can take the door off for lighter handling. The liberty and cannon were both inside hinges. Triker



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Old February 16th, 2010, 05:39 AM   #2
 
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I've been looking at safes too. From what I've read, having the hinges on the interior or exterior is really not that big a factor in choosing a secure safe. So far, I have been impressed with some Liberty and Cannon models and some of those built for Cabelas. For me, the fire rating is very important and I have decided I want a mechanical lock instead of an electronic lock. I don't want to be dependent on batteries. I'm not familiar with the Red Heads but will take a better look at them the next time I'm in Bass Pro.
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Old February 17th, 2010, 09:27 PM   #3
 
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I have a Red Head and I believe it is that model. I got it on sale. I was looking long and hard and was wanting one of the high end models like the Fort Knox, but couldn't swing the cost right away. I live out in the country where it is typically safe from burglaries, but a fella a couple miles from where I live had his house broken into and firearms stolen including a limited edition engraved matched pair of Ruger Vaqueros. Anyway the whole story is on another thread, but this got me thinking and scrambling for a safe and Bass Pro was having a sale and that is what I bought. Browning had a safe rep there promoting there safes and he had valid points, but one of his selling mistakes was to point out what the inner door opening and insulation should look/feel like and used a Browning safe as a "good" reference and then go to the Redhead to point out the "lesser quality". Needless to say the "lesser" wasn't there and the Redhead was much cheaper. Don't get me wrong I liked the Browning better, but for the money I feel I made a good decision and I like my safe. No safe is truly impenetrable given enough time anyone would be able to get in one. When I brought mine home it looked like it would start raining at any moment. I have 3 steps up a porch on a gentle hill. My thought was to build a ramp so my wife and I could scoot or drag the safe up with a dolly. COULDN'T do it! I had to use a tractor with a loader to place it on the porch and then I was able to use the dolly no problem to move through the house. So no one is going to walk away with it. Mine has the electronic lock and at first I wanted a mechanical lock and I believe most are better quality, but I really have come to like my electronic key pad. The major benefit for me is at night. I programed my own code and if I place my hand correctly I can by memory punch the numbers in the dark and gain access.

So yes I like mine and I would buy another. Would I still prefer a Fort Knox? You bet, but I believe for the money Redhead is a good safe and much better than hiding your guns in the closet or under the bed. A local pawn shop has several Redhead safes to store his gun inventory and had nothing bad to say.

Regarding removing the door. The manual doesn't recommend it. I believe it voids the warranty if damaged. I thought about do it, but the door weighs several hundred pounds and I knew it would be difficult to line up the pins with the hinges all the while trying to support hundreds of pounds without a sure grip and without hurting myself or damaging the safe. I have a Red Head and I believe it is that model. I got it on sale. I was looking long and hard and was wanting one of the high end models like the Fort Knox, but couldn't swing the cost right away. I live out in the country where it is typically safe from burglaries, but a fella a couple miles from where I live had his house broken into and firearms stolen including a limited edition engraved matched pair of Ruger Vaqueros. Anyway the whole story is on another thread, but this got me thinking and scrambling for a safe and Bass Pro was having a sale and that is what I bought. Browning had a safe rep there promoting there safes and he had valid points, but one of his selling mistakes was to point out what the inner door opening and insulation should look/feel like and used a Browning safe as a "good" reference and then go to the Redhead to point out the "lesser quality". Needless to say the "lesser" wasn't there and the Redhead was much cheaper. Don't get me wrong I liked the Browning better, but for the money I feel I made a good decision and I like my safe. No safe is truly impenetrable given enough time anyone would be able to get in one. When I brought mine home it looked like it would start raining at any moment. I have 3 steps up a porch on a gentle hill. My thought was to build a ramp so my wife and I could scoot or drag the safe up with a dolly. COULDN'T do it! I had to use a tractor with a loader to place it on the porch and then I was able to use the dolly no problem to move through the house. So no one is going to walk away with it. Mine has the electronic lock and at first I wanted a mechanical lock and I believe most are better quality, but I really have come to like my electronic key pad. The major benefit for me is at night. I programed my own code and if I place my hand correctly I can by memory punch the numbers in the dark and gain access.

So yes I like mine and I would buy another. Would I still prefer a Fort Knox? You bet, but I believe for the money Redhead is a good safe and much better than hiding your guns in the closet or under the bed. A local pawn shop has several Redhead safes to store his gun inventory and had nothing bad to say.

Regarding removing the door. The manual doesn't recommend it. I believe it voids the warranty if damaged. I thought about do it, but the door weighs several hundred pounds and I knew it would be difficult to line up the pins with the hinges all the while trying to support hundreds of pounds without a sure grip and without hurting myself or damaging the safe.

I will say I wish I bought a bigger one. You will find many things all of a sudden have "value" and end up in the safe.
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I have no experience with the Red Head line. I have a old Prosteel who makes them for Browning.I have a Liberty and a Cannon and there's not much difference between them.
IMHO BassPro is to high on their prices.

Probably 25 years ago my house was broken into. The thief tried to get in my Prosteel.He tried prying the dial off. He sheered the sheer pin off but never got into to it.That safe paid for itself right there.

I'm not trying to sell for Costco but they have some nice safes.That price includes the delivery to your house.That's curb service delivery.

Costco.com: Offering thousands of items you won?t find in your local Costco. type in gun safe in the search box.

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The Red Head safes are made by Prosteel. These are the same as Browning safes. On Brownings website is a video about their safes. About halfway through they state that the doors can be removed for easier moving, and they show two guys lifting the door off and setting it on the ground.

The doors are about 1/3 to 2/5 the weight of the safe. Depending on the size of the safe. Most will be well under 250 pounds and are easily removed if care is taken. A piece of carpet to protect the bottom of the safe, and a couple of guys should be able to remove the door without difficulty. In a local store, my 19 yo son and I easily lifted the door of a 60x30 safe off of the pins, and back on. We are both 5'9" and about 185 lbs. We had no doubt we could handle it in the house on our own.

Go to your local Bass or another shop with a similar browning safe, take someone with you and try it yourself.

Here is a link to the video: http://www.browning.com/products/cat...asp?catalog_=F
See the "What You Can't See Does Matter" video.

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