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Old September 7th, 2015, 12:15 PM   #16
 
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The military stuff just says clp i got a gallon back around 2000 from the unit i was in and still using it didn't cost me any thing about out. I have heard people using clean motor oil not trans fluid but it does have more cleaning properties to it. I will give trans fluid a try when i run out of clp thanx for the tip



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Huh? Um... you don't want oil in your barrel when you're shooting a gun. That's a good way to get at best a barrel bulge and at worst a kaboom.

The reason there are so many products for guns that so many people rave about as being the best is that they pretty much all work. Heck, with some guns, like AK's or Glocks, I'm pretty sure you could use bacon grease and not only would they work fine, but it wouldn't hurt them.
Something along the sort of a dry lube. Had you watched the video before throwing your .02 in you'd see that even when wiped off completely this stuff still beats any other lube there is. Having a dry lube won't hurt your barrel. If it did, I would have ruined all my guns already and so would have all the other champion shooters who put things like graphite in their barrel.
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Old September 7th, 2015, 12:27 PM   #18
 
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Here's a good one to try: FIREClean | Home
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Old September 9th, 2015, 03:57 PM   #19
 
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I have a lot of different stuff and basically simple oils and Hoppes is all you need it seems.
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Cleaning/Lube products always generate a lot of opinions. That being said, I've used Weapon Shield for a few years and have had excellent results. It doesn't require a lot of product (a little goes a long way).
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Cleaning/Lube products always generate a lot of opinions. That being said, I've used Weapon Shield for a few years and have had excellent results. It doesn't require a lot of product (a little goes a long way).
I've got a 16 oz bottle on the way!
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I did watch the video. With all due respect for the fellow in the video, who may in fact know an awful lot about lubricants, he's well, kind of full of it there.

His argument about the weaknesses of motor oils when used as gun oil is frankly rather strange. The motor oils we use in our cars and trucks has to perform some rather amazing feats. It must lubricate and protect very expensive engines, built with very precise and close tolerances. It needs to do its job in temperatures ranging from well below zero to well over 100 degrees Fahrenheit. Motor oils work at high temps in engines that spin at thousands of revolutions per minute. It has to work for thousands of miles before we change it.

How can you even begin to compare what oil does in a firearm to what it does in a car or truck engine? Even if you fire 500 rounds out of a fully automatic rifle, that 500 times the bolt cycles is less than the number of times the pistons in your car motor cycle in a minute.

What's more, if you tried to run your car motor with no oil, it will rather quickly seize up and stop. The pistons and cylinder walls will be scored beyond repair, and you will be out thousands of dollars for a new engine. Most firearms, however, will run "dry." They may not be quite as reliable, but it generally does not wreck them to run them with no lubrication. You've got smooth sliding on smooth steel. It's not hurting itself, cuz they're both steel.

Heck, there are numerous accounts in military history where soldiers fighting in below zero conditions found that the only way to keep their weapons running was to stop using oil and to urinate on them every morning.

Also, and here is the really big kicker. Motor oil in our vehicles has to last for at least 3,000 miles, often two or three times that long. Oil in our firearms gets removed and replaced often. Many shooters clean their guns every time they shoot them. Even if you don't do that you never wear out the oil in your guns. If you shoot a gun a bunch without adding any lube, the lube that was in it when you started either runs off the gun due to gravity and the movement of the parts in the gun, and/or it gets evaporated off the gun from heat. Unlike your car motor, your guns do not have oil pumps to keep the oil circulating. So, the oil on your gun is either gone, or replaced with new oil long before it could ever break down or wear out.

I am sure Weapon Shield works just fine. So does Militec-1. And Hoppe's and Ballistol and Rem-Oil and 3-In-1 Oil and Fireclean and Mobil 1 and sewing machine oil and WD-40 and Frog Lube and Hilco Lube and.... I could go on and on. But the point is, they all work. And yes, it's possible that some may work better than others. Sometimes even a lot better. How will we ever know, though?

My advice? Use what you like and what works for you, and sleep well at night.
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How can you even begin to compare what oil does in a firearm to what it does in a car or truck engine? Even if you fire 500 rounds out of a fully automatic rifle, that 500 times the bolt cycles is less than the number of times the pistons in your car motor cycle in a minute.

What's more, if you tried to run your car motor with no oil, it will rather quickly seize up and stop. The pistons and cylinder walls will be scored beyond repair, and you will be out thousands of dollars for a new engine. Most firearms, however, will run "dry." They may not be quite as reliable, but it generally does not wreck them to run them with no lubrication. You've got smooth sliding on smooth steel. It's not hurting itself, cuz they're both steel.
You make a good point, so this means 1 of 3 things; he said hes a part of SAE so:
1. His knowledge on why motor oil is bad is beyond our comprehension because we are not at his advanced level (he did create weapon shield AND the old FP10)
2. He is making stuff up to try and get people to use his stuff and not motor oil which works just fine
3. Hes an idiot.

Or maybe Weapon Shield uses the same friction reducing elements that motor oil does, only better. Motor oil does break down though, regardless of what anyone says. Probably would have to put a hell of a lot of rounds through a gun to break down the oil though.

All that being said, I'm no chemist or material scientist so this is beyond me. I like to think that people dont blatantly lie, but how can you really tell
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Well said. I still use Mobil one synthetic wheel bearing greese on my 1911. Every bit as good as slide glide and may, in fact, be the same stuff...
Hahah, after watching the video (with the sound off though), I was going to chime in that wheel bearing grease might be the ultimate for that kind of test! Thankfully I don't have to stop any rotating drums with my firearms, so that test seems fairly irrelevant.

Do you have issues with separation with Mobil 1 grease? I used to use it in ball joints, tie rod ends, etc, but it would always ooze red oil out of the grease gun. By the time I'd get about 50-75% of the way through the tube, it would be so dry and hard that it wouldn't pump anymore. Back in the day it seemed others had the same problem. Maybe they've addressed that by now?
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Really there shouldn't be any lube in your barrel once you have neutralized the bore cleaner. When you burn any petroleum product it turns into carbon. Carbon in the barrel is not good for accuracy. Unless you are one of those people who put your rifle up at the end of hunting season and do no more shooting until the following season there is no reason to have oil in the barrel.
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I like frog's lube, I feel that every thing stays lube. I've only used hoppes and frog's lube, after a day at the range you can still see the shine from the frog's lube.
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Wow look into this stuff... I was all about the frog's lube. When I saw the test between weapons shield vs frogs lube, I think I'm a changed man
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I don't think there is such a thing as a "best gun lube". I think gun lube is just a good gimmick to get money from gullible gun owners that are an easy target. How is gun lube any better than any other good lubricant? I have or had guns made in 1868, the 1940s and the early 70s. They are still nice, clean, tight and ready to shoot. That was long before "gun lube" was invented. Over my 68 years, I have seen guns lubed with sewing machine oil, Marvel Mystery Oil, transmission fluid, motor oil and even STP. I have "gun oil" that came with a cleaning kit but I use CRC Power Lube instead. My guns always look and perform like new.

If you keep your gun clean, lubed and dry, I think it will last for many years regardless of which oil is used. If you want "the best", it's your money.
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The test is about eliminating friction, and from watching the video and others it seems weapons shield works the best.
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Check out the testing run in the following post and see how your favorite fared...
Frog's lube back on top...
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