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Old October 6th, 2008, 05:54 AM   #1
 
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.44mag knockdown & trajectory

I'm new to the handgun deer hunting world and have a Redhawk .44 mag. I want to shoot 240 gr HP. What can i expect for knockdown power and trajectory at 100 yards. Will i see a substantial drop from fifty yards in point of impact?? Any suggestions in loads and weights is appreciated. I'm shooting open sights so maybe a 100 yards is a little to much to expect but with what i see at 40 - 50 yards i'm pretty confident with a little practice i can group good enought to make clean kills. Thanks for the help



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Old October 6th, 2008, 08:14 AM   #2
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deerlevelr, Energy at the muzzle is 972 ft lbs. At 50 yards, energy drops to 760 ft lbs and at 100 yds there is still 632 ft lbs left .... plenty for a clean kill.

If you zero your sights at 50 yards, bullet drop at 100 yards will be about 5", which is still within limits.

The real issue is not energy or bullet drop, rather it is how well you can shoot a handgun at those distances. Put up some targets at 100 yards. If you can maintain a 8" group centered on the kill zone, you shouldn't have a problem with a clean kill.
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How about a different approach. What would the trajectory be at 50 if you zeroed at 100?? Just curious as I'm guessing it would be less that 5" if you went the other way.
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terry_p, Good point ... with a 100 yard zero, the bullet path would only be about 2.5" high at 50 yards. The problem with long range handgun sight-in is the group size increases to a point where you really don't know if you are high or low. A good compromise would be to sight the gun in for 2.5" high at 50 yards or 1.5" high at 25 yards. Either would set zero-in for 100 yards.

Here's a Ballistic Explorer graph showing the trajectory of both sight-in distances.

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thanks for the great info guys.... Basically if your on at fifty and hold for a lung shot from 0-100 you get either a lung hit or a heart hit if we do our part. Either way dead deer.... which is what we're all going for. I'll do some shooting in the next week and let you know what i come up with. I'm going to get a couple deer shiloette targets and see if i can't consistantly put some lead where it counts. Thanks again
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Iowegan,
Yer advice-----
"A good compromise would be to sight the gun in for 2.5" high at 50 yards or 1.5" high at 25 yards. Either would set zero-in for 100 yards."

Damn good advice!
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What luck! I just registered here, and finished buying my IL deer gun hunting license.

As it happens, I too have a Redhawk (currently at Ruger) in 44 Mag and will be hunting with it. The gun is at Ruger now. Why? Long story, here it is. Sorry for not wanting to re-hash it here.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=310125

(hope that's not against the rules to post links to another forum...)

Thanks a ton for the trajectories Iowegan. I need to start work on a handload to match factory magnum ballistics. I have H110 and Rem 240 gr. JHP bullets, so I just need the dies and the gun back from Ruger.
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that's crazy...i hope you make out well. Let us know how it turns out, by what i've read Ruger has taken great care of their customers. I'm sure they will for you too!!
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Thanks for that info. I have a Red Dot on my SBH and that is what I will do.
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I went to the range today and played around with my RH. Here's what i came up with.... Keep in mind this is all iron sight shooting. Approx. 3" high at 25yd, 5" high at 50yd, and on at 100yd. I shot groups at all three distances ranging from 4-8" or so with 6 rounds. At 100 i shot from a rest and shot to the right. I came up with this conclusion...the gun is on and it's me that moves these groups. Being new to handgun shooting, i am confident enough to shoot a deer up to 50 yd and fully expect a ethical hit. From 100 i would want a rest and would only take a shot at a relaxed deer in the open. Knowing the gun can do it, but not being super confident i can do it consitantly yet. Where i hunt 100 yard shots are rare because of thick nasty brush, so i have a feeling there's gunna be some smackin goin on in my woods this fall. The trajectory curve you guys posted and talked about seems to right on and the RH is certainly a great shooting gun in my eyes. Thanks for the help
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deerlevelr, I think you came to a richeous conclusion. Most experienced handgun hunters know their limits .... both in ballistics and marksmanship. 100 yards is a reasonable limit for ballistics but 50 yards is much more reasonable for marksmanship.
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deerlevelr.
Cool post,good details.

I do hope everybody gets.....with open sites....
Shooting at a deer at 100 yards, MAJOR RISK of just a bad wound/slow death.

No hunter wants a sloppy shot.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 12:31 PM   #13
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That is great information. Thanks all. My pet round for Deer is 240 gr XTP over 24 gr H110.
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well deer season is almost over here, no good chances with the RH yet. I did get one with my muzzleloader and finished her off with the RH. So at least it got to bark. One week left so maybe i'll get lucky. Still fun just having the RH with me, much easier than having to carry a shotgun through brush.
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44 Mag Carbine at work!

Some great information on this thread! Thought I would post a pic of my 8 year old with his first buck taken with a Ruger 44 Mag Carbine rifle. I still can't get over the hole this bullet made at 125 yards! That is a little further shot than I would normally like to take but he thought he could make it and he did. He took 5 steps and dropped!

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