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Old January 1st, 2017, 12:02 PM   #1
 
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Question need help: looking into a 308 for hunting boar and deer

So I'm thinking about getting a .308 rifle for hunting wild boar and possibly whitetail deer here in SW Florida. I haven't hunted in a VERY long time and when I did it was with a shotgun for pheasant, quail, etc.

I've started looking around and I'm having trouble figuring out what would make the most sense. Prices seem to vary drastically. Any folks with experience using a .308 for boar and deer, that would be willing to share pics and specs, would be super helpful. I'm also interested in what people like for ammo.

Also, if there are any folks that would know of someone I could join on a trip or know of any any good guides that would be great as well. I'm in Cape Coral, next to Ft. Myers.

These are the WMA's down here: Green Swamp has the largest harvest each year, followed by Green Swamp West, Babcock/Webb, Chassahowitzka and Myakka State Forest.

Babcock/Webb is actually were I go to the firing range. It appears that hunting on private property is much less of a hassle for boar here than hunting on a WMA.

Edit: To be fair I did hunt squirrels and rabbits with a bolt action 22.




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Old January 1st, 2017, 12:49 PM   #2
 
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I bought a Savage axis II in 308, inexpensive shoots good enough to put down most anything you want to shoot.
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Take a look at the Ruger American Rifle in 308. Check out the compact version of these as well as the regular models.

I use a hand loaded 150 gr barnes bullet on elk, it works well. I really like my RAR 308 compact rifle

Enjoy your hunts.
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Zparticle, the .308 is a perfect deer/hog hunting cartridge. Ammo is available everywhere, any platform chambered for it will likely give great hunting accuracy, and the standard weight cup & core bullets work great on boars and bucks at .308 velocities. If you are not an experienced shooter, be aware a lightweight plastic-stocked bolt action sporter in .308 Win will recoil quite vigorously. Selecting a heavier rifle, a semi-auto action, and a cushy recoil pad are all things that make .308's comfortable for most hunters to handle.
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I hunt hogs and deer with a browning bar shorttrac in .308. My son shoots a winchester xpr bolt action .308. An AR style .308 makes for a good hog, deer rifle. Browning BLR is good too. Something you can shoot well, cycle quicky and reliably. Assuming your hunting in heavy vegetation in Florida. If over a feeder out of a stand, a good accurate bolt action will do well.
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308 is a great cartridge all the way around.

I am guessing you are a bit older? If so I am thinking you need optics for your eyes. A 2-7x32 2-8x36 or even a boring 3-9x40 would be good for the up close, but sometimes 200 yard shots you can get in Florida.

What is your budget?

The Tikka at $600 comes with rings and you are guaranteed to get a five shot under an inch capable gun.

Used savages and new savages can be had between 300-500 with scopes. I think the savages a step up from the Axis are your best value for pure hunting performance, but they are ugly as sin.

The model 70 starts around 650-700, but to me is the most beautiful hunting tool for form fit and function. The new ones are all three shot MOA out of the box. The extrem weather $900-1200 is my absolute favorite.

The Ruger Americans are cheap but look at a Cabelas used gun rack, full of poor shooting Americans, they can be hit or miss. The 18" predator model is a good bet if you go with the American line. The stainless Americans are $450 around here.

I have quite a few Ruger Scout rifles, the stainless synthetic is great, but @800-950 I think there are better options. I grabbed up a used 18.7" stainless for $700 it is a very accurate specimen. I am taking that one hog hunting this spring.

The Remington 700 sps and adl should not be overlooked. These entry level 700s are about the same price as the American series, but their internal box magazines are better for the long haul design wise. Also they have a 50+ year earned reputation for accuracy.

308 will do pretty much everything in the lower 48. If you need a lower recoiling option that's deer perfect and great for hogs consider the 7mm-08.

Another favorite swamp option is the CZ 527 carbine in 7.62x39. Putting out about 1500 ft pounds it is a bit better ballistically than a 30-30. It is very accurate even with Russian ammo projectiles vary from 120-154 grains. I have taken sheep, goats and pigs with it. In Africa I took deer sized antelope with a 223 version.
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Use a heavy bullet 168 grain or so to get the SD up there for more reliable penetration.

What kind of range do you envision as your maximum?

For my hunting, I chose the 30-30 and fed it 170 grain Core-Lokt JSP. While it doesn't have the range of a 308, it shoots as far as I'd want to take a shot (150 yards or less and probably more like 100).

I've since traded the 30-30 for a 44 Magnum carbine as it doubles as my fun rifle with 44 Special level cowboy loads. My go-to ammo for it is Winchester White Box 240 grain JSP.

ngashooter has some good advice as well.
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Thanks everyone for all of the info. I've been searching/reading/watching stuff on the web all day.

For the boar hunting I don't envision myself shooting over 75 yards as most of the places down here seem to use tree stands and feeding stations (you can chase around with dogs but I've got so many issues with my joints that isn't an option, and I'm just too fat to be running around, lol). Not sure about the deer thing, maybe 125 yards? Also apparently you can hunt for gators here, which would be very cool as I like the taste of gator.

Of course I would like to get a REALLY NICE rifle but in reality what I need is something that I'll get to use for hunting maybe 2-3 times a year and the rest of the time I'll be at the range just having fun. I have no desire to just go out and kill a bunch of animals, I'm mainly interested in the meat. I've been experimenting with curing and aging my own hams and would love to be able to make sausage and other items from wild game.

I have to have a scope, my vision is not great and apparently boars are nocturnal. As the light gets lower my eyes get more tired.

I'm not 100% sure yet but I'm leaning toward this package.
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Check out the Savage Hog Hunter. I put a Boyd's stock and Williams peep sight on mine.
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https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...s_id/719006963

For $40 more this one comes with a Nikon scope which is nicer than the Kaspa and has coating on it that will help in hunting conditions. The action and stock are also a big step up from the Axis. The Axis can be a good selection too, but for $40 more you are getting a lot more out of the box without much to upgrade.
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Check out the Savage Hog Hunter. I put a Boyd's stock and Williams peep sight on mine.
The Savage Hog Hunter is a great hunting rifle. Rugged as heck and purpose built for hunting.
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For just over $500 you can get stainless.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...H+XP+308+NIKON
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I have used a remington 7600 pump in 30-06 which is about 100 or so fps faster than a 308 not enough difference to worry about. I use 180 grain remington corelokt and have taken over 50 boar up to 400 lbs and one hot was all it took. I used a 1.5x5 scope on it. In 308 no difference should be noticed. O use a pump because I hunt deer in Pennsylvania and until recently Penn banned semi autos for hunting.
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https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...s_id/719006963

For $40 more this one comes with a Nikon scope which is nicer than the Kaspa and has coating on it that will help in hunting conditions. The action and stock are also a big step up from the Axis. The Axis can be a good selection too, but for $40 more you are getting a lot more out of the box without much to upgrade.
Absolutely, looked up that scope and it has great reviews and even has the BDC. Thanks, . The Kaspa has the BDC as well but most of the reviews seem to have it as mediocre at best.
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To the OP I think your choice in the Savage Axis Hardwood stock .308 with a scope should work out very nice. I am guessing that you do not reload so a .308 a 7.62x39 or a 30/30 should work just fine. I have also read about guys shooting hogs with a .223. A .243 would also work. There are many choices first pick the action you want a bolt action would probably be my first suggestion. What turns me off is all the plastic crap & composite stocks etc. I am old school real metal & a walnut stock. But now that's old school!!! The Savage 11/111 is a step above the Axis, the Savage 11/111 I would rate this rifle very high this is a very nice my Son in law recently bought this rifle/scope combo it comes with a basic but nice Nikon 3-9x40 BDC scope. Good luck seems to me you have done your home work!!!

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