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Old January 5th, 2017, 01:07 PM   #31
 
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The ammo showed up, I'm pretty sure I'll be going to the range in the morning.
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Old January 6th, 2017, 06:22 AM   #32
 
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Okay got to the range this morning, "cold", wet and foggy as heck. In this pic with the rifle, yes I know it wasn't pointed straight down range, but the mag was out and the bolt was open. I'll be more careful next time.

I started with the target at 100 yards as that is were I wanted to zero the scope. However after taking the first two shots I couldn't see where the rounds we hitting due to the fog so I waited for a cold range and moved the target up to 50 yards.
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My performance was not wonderful. I just couldn't get over the fear of the recoil. The little bipod I was using was too short, I have another one on the way. It was also pretty unstable, I use it with the M&P 15-22 Sport and it works just fine but not heavy duty enough for this rifle.

The pad on the butt of the stock is great as far absorbing the recoil, I could shoot all day with that an not be in pain afterward. Unfortunately it is also so squishy that I had a hard time planting the butt in my shoulder and not moving. The more I pushed the stock into my shoulder the harder it was to keep from moving the barrel around. Maybe having the taller bipod will help that.

The bolt is very smooth, no problems there. This thing has quite the recoil. The whole thing with the bipod would come off the bench a few inches every time I fired. There must be a better way to hold the rifle to reduce the amount of jump. Again maybe the new bippod will help out with this as I won't be basically laying down when firing it.

First picture is first two rounds at 100 yards before I tried to make any adjustments. Overall I guess I'm pretty happy given the conditions, the bad bipod and being this was my first experience with a .308.

Edit: Also wanted to note that the AccuTrigger is very nice as well, it makes it easy to tell when it will actually fire.
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Old January 6th, 2017, 08:07 AM   #34
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I see you ordered ammo in the 165 gr catagory. Deer and hogs don't require such strong medicine. Elk and bigger are what the 160+ stuff is for. A 150 gr. spitzer will kill any hog I have ever seen, not to mention white tail deer.
Cut back on the grains of bullet, your recoil problems will be reduced significantly. One caveat, bullet construction is paramount with hogs, and bullet placement is not the same as deer.
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Old January 6th, 2017, 11:31 AM   #35
 
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For hunting, you are going to kill what you aim at; however, I'd be Ok but not thrilled with the nosler groupings, and unhappy with the fusion. I'd get some federal blue box soft points in 150 and 180 grain to see if that makes a difference. That nosler ammo is to expensive to experiment with! Even in .308.
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Agree all around on your points folks.

I went out and got some inexpensive stuff, Fusion and Winchester both in 150 gr. I think I'm going to wait until the new bipod comes in before I take this out again. It is supposed to be here Sunday, the range is closed for renovations Monday and Tuesday, so maybe I'll get back up there mid next week. Hopefully without the fog and having everything dripping wet.

I'n the mean time my Aguila Rifle Match .22 ammo came in so I'm going to take the 22/45 LITE and the M&P 15-22 Sport out for some fun.
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Remington makes a low recoil 308 round 125 grain @ 2660'/second (SD = 0.188).

Federal makes a low recoil 308 round 170 grain @ 2000'/second (SD = 0.256). This is similar to a 30-30.

My recommendation would go to the 170 grain as its higher Sectional Density would suggest better penetration for pigs. While it won't have the range of the 125 grain, it should be plenty to kill a hog out to 100-125 yards which I feel is plenty.

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Find a classic - Savage Model 99 in 308. Great rifle.
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Got an ammo sleeve and a taller bipod, the other bipod was 6-9 inches and was too short this one is 9-13 inches.
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Back to the range this morning, got two scopes sighted in at one hundred yards on the .308. Did better, still not great though.
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Nice job, you're doing fine! I'd ditch the bi-pod and shoot off of sandbags and/or a proper rest though. I think you'd feel much more comfortable shooting from a rest than a bi-pod and you may be able to focus on your breath control and trigger pull better. Also, have you considered a lead sled? Some people use them when sighting in rifles with bothersome recoil. I don't use them personally since I prefer to know how my rifle feels, but they do help zero in your gun without punishing your shoulder.
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get a m4-72 severe-duty™ compensator, i turned my 308 into the gun i wanted, no more flinch because i am waiting for the recoil.
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I think a .308 is a great choice. I've had a Browning BLR since 1970 and it has taken a more game than I can remember. It's a versatile caliber that allows one to take big and small game alike with the range of different cartridges and loads available for it.
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If you think recoil and flinching are making the shooting experience not what you'd like, I second the earlier recommendation to try the reduced recoil loads from Hornady, Federal, or Remington. They really are much more pleasant to shoot with minimal reduction in power. Ive shot the 7mm-08 loads, which are similar to .308, and they were great. My sons each shot nice bucks using them with full pass throughs at 100 yards or so.
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+1 to anyone who says get a savage.

For some reason people have a hard time wrapping their head around the fact that you can buy a savage for $300 that will perform literally just as good as many guns that cost over 3 times that.

Savages have the mechanical accuracy to shoot around the 600 yard mark...if you are going to do that often, obviously you need an optic to support such activities, which you could easily spend $800-900.

Does it feel right fitting a $800 on a $300 gun? Not really. Most people will shoot the Savage just as well as they would their Model 700 with a free floating 28" bull barrel....but they think that having an expensive gun makes them shoot better and they think that because they need an expensive scope, it MUST go on an equally expensive gun!
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