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This is a discussion on need help: looking into a 308 for hunting boar and deer within the Hunting forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; I recommend a Ruger GSR and a scout scope. About $1100 delivered to your FFL. https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...GUNST+18+MATSS https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...COPE+2.75X20MM The link to the GSR is the 18" ...


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Old January 1st, 2017, 06:54 PM   #16
 
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I recommend a Ruger GSR and a scout scope. About $1100 delivered to your FFL.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...GUNST+18+MATSS

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...COPE+2.75X20MM

The link to the GSR is the 18" barrel version. IMO 16.5" is too short to make the best use of a 308. The scope is a fixed power Burris. Both the scope and the rifle have lifetime guarantees.



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The 308 will easily do what you need.

A big plus is the fact that 308 is probably one of the most produced 30 cal rounds there is. Ammo is always available and in just about ANY bullet type, grain and load you can imagine.

If you have a small budget, a Savage bolt action can be had for $300.

If your serious and have a good budget,plan on keep it and want excellent quality, ,, CZ 527. Its a very fine built quality rifle thats an absolute tack driver and worth every penny. They are a $700 rifle that will out shoot the high $$ customs. They also come factory with REALLY good triggers. IMO, CZ rifles are competition grade shooters right out of the box.

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I have old Remington 700's which are also tack drivers, came with good triggers, and I love em. But Ive NO idea how the new ones are.



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You won't go wrong with the 308. My Son and I have killed several deer with a 308, with hand loaded 150 gr. Hornady SST's. If I were going after hogs, I would probably go with the 165 gr or heavier, Hornady Interlock bullets.
Tha Savage will probably be the lowest cost entry level rifle. The Ruger American would be my choice though, for a little more money.
You may want to check on the Marlin line of rifles, not sure of the cost, but have been hearing good things about Marlin Patriot rifles.

Good Luck, let us know what you get, and how you do with it.
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So at this point I'm considering two package options:

Ruger American

Savage M-11 TH XP

Currently I'm leaning toward the Ruger but I would be very interested to hear your opinions and thinking. Thanks again everyone, you have been a huge help.

For ammo I'm looking at Nosler 308 Winchester 165 Grain AccuBond, I'm NOT going to be going through 1000s of rounds, so price for the ammo isn't a big deal I'd rather have accuracy and consistency.

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The Ruger American has a common problem of having pronounced machining ridges on it bolt that make a loud noise while working the bolt. The savage does not have that problem.

The savage has a much better stock compared to the plastic of the American.

The detachable magazine on the Savage is metal not plastic like the Ruger and doesn't have the plastic tab that makes the gun useless if it breaks off.

The Nikon compares closely to the Vortex in terms of quality.

You have a better chance of getting a more accurate barrel with the savage. They put their money in their barrels. That barrel is the same as the ones on the more expensive models. The more expensive models have upgraded stocks, bolts, fittings, metal finish, etc., but that same barrel until you get into the long range models.

For ammo look at Federal Fusion 308, its bonded and opens consistently at all velocities. The accubond is very accurate but had a reputation for failure to open in light skinned game. But in a 308 the cheap Remington Corelokt has an outstanding reputation if you want a great performer you can find cheap at Walmart.

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So at this point I'm considering two package options:

Ruger American

Savage M-11 TH XP

Currently I'm leaning toward the Ruger but I would be very interested to hear your opinions and thinking. Thanks again everyone, you have been a huge help.

For ammo I'm looking at Nosler 308 Winchester 165 Grain AccuBond, I'm NOT going to be going through 1000s of rounds, so price for the ammo isn't a big deal I'd rather have accuracy and consistency.
I have a model 10 XP predator hunter. Its a good enough rifle I never got rid of it. It was a $700+ rifle but came with a $20 simmons scrap scope.
For that price on the Model 11, you are getting a $150 worth of Nikon scope.

My model 10 XP has a nice action and good accu trigger. I also like the 3 position safety. With a decent rest and no sandbags,, ( real world hunting/shooting) It shoots about a 3 inch group @ 250 yards on cheap military FMJ ammo, which I thought pretty good really. I also shot it fast and hot to see how much would change in accuracy. Cold bore, or hot , SAME SAME, nothing changed. With the barrel hot enough you couldnt hold it, the rifle maintained its group. Mine is a 223, so it basic job in my inventory has been 0 to 250 yards for varmints, which it does excellent. I never shot it past 250. After 250 + yards, I go to the 270 or 3006,,, but a 308 would bridge that gap VERY nicely. . @ $450 with a Nikon scope,, no brainer .

My brother has the "other" model in 223. , and he is pretty HO HUM about it.
He has borrowed my model 10 XP and really likes it, if that says anything.

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Okay made up my mind and ordered:

1 x Savage 11TH XP .308 Win 22\" Package (22617) = $449.00
1 x Nosler 308 Winchester 165 Grain AccuBond (60049) = $33.65
1 x Federal F308FS2 Fusion 20RD 165gr 308 Winchester (F308FS2) = $19.70

Wanted to try the two different ammo types.
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Good choices. Try plain old 165gr Cor Lokt, Power Point, or Hi Shok ammo too. It's inexpensive, available at every Megamart, and totally effective at the .308's moderate impact velocities where bonding isn't needed.
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Congratulations, I think you have made a great choice. Please update us with your thoughts when it arrives.
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Okay made up my mind and ordered:

1 x Savage 11TH XP .308 Win 22\" Package (22617) = $449.00
1 x Nosler 308 Winchester 165 Grain AccuBond (60049) = $33.65
1 x Federal F308FS2 Fusion 20RD 165gr 308 Winchester (F308FS2) = $19.70

Wanted to try the two different ammo types.
That's awesome! Nice purchase and good idea on two type of ammo. If you're not happy with the accuracy of those two, try 150 grain or 180 grain .308 ammo. BTW, I almost exclusively shoot Fusion ammo. It is excellent for the price and devastating on deer sized game.
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Looking forward to hearing a range/ hunting report.

Good call on the 165 grain.

As far as buying factory ammo,, I really like the Winchester silver tips in 150 or 168 grain.
They do a heck of a job on thick skinned game.


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Hoping it comes in time to get to the range this weekend. That last order I had from buds came in two days, really surprised me I thought it would be at least a week. I won't be doing the hunt for while. Need to spend some quality time with it at the range and I also need to buy a new freezer to store any meat from hunting, everything I already have is full of other stuff.
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was going to throw in a word for the RAR, our All Weather Compact is great, we have absolutely enjoyed ours, not hunting but may take the boy on a boar hunting trip in WVA...

the boy can use the RAR... i will be using the M1A.
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Rifle came today. Thought I'd share some pics and a few thoughts. First the scope is incredibly clear at all magnifications. It didn't come with any lens covers though, seems like an odd thing to cheap out on. The pad on the butt of the stock is nice and squishy and should absorb much of the recoil. It however seems like it would be easy to tear off, have to be extra careful about that. The entire thing was covered in oil, you can see it in the pics and see how much rubbed off on the cloth in the last pic. It feels comfortable to me holding it which is a relief as I have problems with my shoulder. We will see how it goes after shooting the thing. The internals of the magazine are indeed metal but the base and the clip that holds it in place are plastic.
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