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This is a discussion on Glock 20 vs Ruger GP100 for woods gun within the Hunting forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; IMHO, the .357 is a poor choice for breaking down heavy bones in any bear, even a average sized black bear. The 180 gr loads ...


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Old December 13th, 2016, 10:56 AM   #31
 
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IMHO, the .357 is a poor choice for breaking down heavy bones in any bear, even a average sized black bear. The 180 gr loads are bare minimum for this work. I realize that many shooters are not comfortable with shooting a .41 or larger magnum load. However, a solid .45 ACP, .44 Special or .45 Colt (225 to 260 gr) load does not have any more recoil than the 10mm and with hard cast bullets will break down almost any animal's shoulder bones?



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Old December 13th, 2016, 11:10 AM   #32
 
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Shoulder bones are probably the last target I'm looking for when an animal is attacking me.
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The revolver is going to give you the option of loading

Ratshot, which is good for poisonous snakes.

With the G20, at best, you could have a ratshot round

in the chamber, which would only give you a single

shot capability against snakes.
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My woods gun used to be a KGP141 now it's a .45 Blackhawk because I don't need a special "woods gun", I just carry my deer hunting gun.
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One thing you may want to consider is that you will want to reload if you shoot much. Chasing brass from an auto is a lost cause. The revolver wins hands down there. Hand guns are great, but they take a lot of continual practice. I would suggest maybe a lever action rifle, like a 16 inch barrel Rossi to go with the revolver. They carry like a dream and are fun to shoot.
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I've been stalked and cornered twice by dog packs. In both cases, the dogs stopped short of me to assess me before coming in.

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In both cases, I had a 12 gauge pump shotgun with 3 rounds of #5 shot field loads.

In both cases, I stood very still while preparing to fire if one advanced towards me. Three cartridges, twelve or more dogs...

In the end, I stood my ground while they waited for me to run or bolt or jerk. Both groups decided I wasn't worth it after about ten minutes, turned and walked off.
Good story! I know this thread is about handguns but you've gotta love a shotgun for almost every scenario out there. For a 'woods' gun I'd be hard pressed to not carry my Remington 870 super magnum. I'd imagine 18 pellets of 00 buck shot is pretty hard to beat for anything medium/small sized.

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Did you only have three shots total or just the three in the gun?

If you were carrying more shells, did you think about exterminating the pack so they didn't harass anyone else, or the local game? Yeah I know easy to armchair quarterback what was a nervous situation. I'm just saying it would be great to wipe 'em out given the chance, as feral dogs and cats are hell on wildlife.

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In fact, one pack sent a runt yipyip dog all covered with burrs and mud to approach me. As I noticed it, I also noticed a pack of a dozen or so dogs watching from several yards away to see what I did next.
That's the first one to blast with shotgun pellets. Makes the others think twice.

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It's usually the yipyips which start the fight, then the

big dogs wade in. One wonders, usually animals scatter at

the sound of gunfire. I'd hate to use up my last three

shots and be wrong, tho.
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It's usually the yipyips which start the fight, then the

big dogs wade in. One wonders, usually animals scatter at

the sound of gunfire. I'd hate to use up my last three

shots and be wrong, tho.
That's why I'm wondering if it was three in the gun (plug in for waterfowl?) or three total on his person.
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Three in the gun; don't remember if I had a pocket full of shells as it's been a good while. No plug, just didn't fill the tube.

No, I really didn't consider exterminating the pack as it didn't seem wise to me.

On another occasion, I had just gotten out of my car and heard something big and loud in a ravine next to the road. I walked to the edge of the woods and saw a "Marmaduke-sized" dog walking up the hill right towards me. I reached into the car and racked my shotgun and it turned when it got to me and walked down the road. It had a huge shotgun wound pattern on its left rear haunch and I found out later it was shot by one of the game wardens in the WMA I was in. The warden supposedly killed it but failed obviously.

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I have both a 4.2" 357GP100 and a Kimber stainless target in 10mm. While working in WA state I carried the 10mm with my own hand loaded 200gr cast bullets. They are running at 1250fps which is what the double tap did across my chrony.

While up there I saw a total of one black bear when hiking on the olympic Peninsula. It didn't bother me and I wasn't in a hurry to mess with it.

For down here in the southwest I favor the 357 and load the first two chambers with snake shot. The other 4 have 158gr powder coated cast bullets over a stiff charge of Lil gun.

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I usually load the GP100 with two ratshot, unless we

have been seeing a lot of snakes, lately, then I bump

it to four.
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