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Old October 29th, 2016, 12:26 PM   #1
 
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Dropped my first small deer with the new American in 308 my wife got me for birthday, used 110 gr Sierra 50gr IMR 4064 my cousin loaded also for my bday it emulsified the heart and lungs and dropped it in its tracks.
Deer was nothing to brag about, was a button which I got to claim as a antler less on the harvest record, but my wife thinks I am still a knuckle dragging hunter gatherer which takes the pressure off the rest of the season



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Good hunt. Congratulations on a good shot.
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Well just got back from the deer locker and just set down and a big fat doe walks into the 50 yard range turned sideways and posed in the sun for me another perfect shot off the trigger stick... wham lot of flash , what I missed! could not find any blood went back and set down playing the shot over in my head and realized no way did I miss that doe, went back started concentric circles and at about 65 yards there she was perfect hit, never did see any blood.
So back from my second trip to the locker today, life is good, my wife will be home soon and my knuckles will be dragging

I will let her know what a great present the Ruger American 308 has been . brownies points galore !

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Great hunt! Filled your freezer in one day with a new rifle...you can't beat that for a good day. Congrats and have fun with that rifle. The 110gr bullet is very light for a .30 caliber rifle. The fast moving bullet will open immediately and transfer a bunch of energy quickly, sometimes dropping game in it's tracks. The flip side is that you don't get much penetration and will seldom get an exit wound. The deer may run over 100yds and leave no blood trail. If reduced recoil is the reason you use light bullets, try some of the 125gr types available. In a .308 the 150gr loads offer good velocity, trajectory, and penetration. With any bullet tougher than a ballistic tip you should get complete penetration on deer with a good blood trail to follow if necessary.
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Congrats on a good day of hunting. I'll take a fat doe over a buck any day. I still haven't found a good recipe for antlers.
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I don't know, I've never ate venison from a buck I didn't like. I too was going to mention 110grn .308 bullet is a bit light. I usually use a .270 out west with 130-150grn. most of my buddies that use a .308 generally use a 150grn. Always have a good blood trail.
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As my dear dad would say "horns don't make good soup" Congrats
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I don't know, I've never ate venison from a buck I didn't like. I too was going to mention 110grn .308 bullet is a bit light. I usually use a .270 out west with 130-150grn. most of my buddies that use a .308 generally use a 150grn. Always have a good blood trail.
My cousins thought behind the load is that the energy is expelled in the deer and not thru it and that seems to be true at least in the two I have shot, both of us have always used 150 gr in the past ,he also has developed a very accurate 168 gr load that I have not tried yet ( these loads are for his rem. 700 in 308) , over the course of this next year he will help me tune one for my rifle as well.
He has killed over 80 deer with a 7mag alone but the past few years has been using a 308 for the most part, lighter and many diff. loads available.
He also dropped his first deer this year with a S&W 44 mag 6" barrel.
He is the best shot with any weapon I have ever been around .
I have had to throw out a couple of bucks they were so gamey, just nasty one was a 8 point that is hanging on my wall , I saw him the day before and could have reached out my truck window and touched him he just stood there his neck was really swelled up , I went on home and the next day a bunch of people were over for brunch and we were setting on the deck and next thing we know the same buck was standing less than 20 feet away ... well the rest is history , it was cleaned right of way drained glands taken off and right to the cooler, it was just nasty, cooked some for the dogs and threw out the rest.
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That light bullet will dump all its energy inside the deer alright, but if it hits the shoulder or a rib you might not get the results you want. That bullet is probably intended for use at .300 BLK velocities and will eventually let you down. If you want to use light bullets go with a TSX, GMX, or other mono-metal type. With a cup and core bullet 110gr is just too light. A ballistic tip or SST of 150gr makes a better deer load. I shoot a .30-06 and I found 150gr ballistic tips weren't holding together on big S. Georgia bucks. The 165gr Speer Hot Cores I use now work perfectly for me. Mostly deer drop in their tracks, but if not there is always a major blood trail. Deer leak out twice as fast with two holes in them.
I only ever killed one buck too nasty to eat. He was a giant bodied (300lbs on the hoof) 9pt in full rut. His neck was super swollen and he was so musky you could smell him from 100yds downwind. Other than that I have eaten everything from spikes to a 12point.
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Thanks for the tips , will see how the season plays out, I did shoot into a 1/2" metal plate @ 50 yds with the load and it burned a hole almost as deep and wide as the 150 gr , and it went thru ribs well , but a blood trail would be nice in heavy brush.
Good luck on everybody's hunt as well !
BTW I am a terrible hunter am only looking to put meat in the freezer , I do love to sit in the woods and just unwind,
Think I will try the Henry in 357 for my next deer
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