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Old September 24th, 2016, 06:37 AM   #1
 
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Old September 24th, 2016, 08:52 AM   #2
 
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Makes me feel better about my decision to go to .308 from .300 win mag for deer and hogs.
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If you presently own a rifle chambered for the .270 Winchester, 7mm-08, .308 Winchester or .30-06 and can place all of your shots in an 8-inch circle out to 200 yards from a sitting or kneeling position you can be a successful Alaska hunter. To be as effective as possible, these cartridges should be loaded with premium quality bullets that are designed to pass completely through a large game animal, if hit in the heart-lung area.

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Thats it in a nutshell. If you can HIT what you are aiming at, you dont need an artillery piece.

And a good Winchester silver tip bullet is one of the best bullets Ive found in 30 years.

I like the .270 win or 30-06. . If they are standing still, I aim for the neck. Drops them in their tracks, mostly with a broken neck. .

If running or moving, or otherwise harder shot, aim for the shoulder blades. The bone shards blow right through the lungs, the bullet will mostly be found just under the hide on the opposite side. Whitetails & muleys drop instantly. Even an large bull elk wont go more than 50 feet.

Makes a hole about U.S. quarter size, and dont blow meat into a jelly bloody mess.
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Advisories from some various government agencies regarding defensive rifle calibers against bears from Alaska to Norway suggest .30-06 as minimum.

If there are bears in the woods I will go for a .375; in addition to bears moose are real big also. A big 1000 plus pound beast close up in a jungle of alders might need more than the standard lower 48 deer rifle capable of hitting an 8 inch target at 200. The little .243 is not allowed for elk hunting in some states.

The recoil from my big .375 makes me feel important like kiddie boxing.

Sounds like the article from Alaska fish & feathers was written by some gun magazine writer.

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30.06 is one tough round. It's WWII armor piercing design

was engineered to penetrate steel armor almost 1/2" thick.

It's still lethal at over 3000 yards. What that translates to, for us,

is a round which is still accelerating at 100 yards, and is

stunningly deadly at all hunting ranges.

So I'll keep some 220 grain with me, and "take my chances"

with it, in bear country.
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30.06 is one tough round. It's WWII armor piercing design

was engineered to penetrate steel armor almost 1/2" thick.

It's still lethal at over 3000 yards. What that translates to, for us,

is a round which is still accelerating at 100 yards, and is

stunningly deadly at all hunting ranges.

So I'll keep some 220 grain with me, and "take my chances"

with it, in bear country.
Once the bullet leaves the barrel, it stops accelerating and begins to decelerate due to friction.

But I'm with you 100% on a 220 grain pill in a 30-06!

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If a guide doesn't like my muzzle brake I'll find another guide.
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A 30-30 killed everything in N. America at one time .
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I don't know if it was Jack Conner and I'm too lazy to look it up but I read about a PH in Africa that used to cull elephants with a .270. Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement. To be fair, elephants are relatively thin skinned. I sure as heck wouldn't want to whack a Cape Buffalo with anything less than a 375H&H. That's pure speculation and theory on my part because I've never even been to Africa. It's on the bucket list though and if/when I get to go I'm taking my Ruger Guide Gun 30-06 and my Winchester M70 Super Express 458Win. Both have muzzle brakes BTW.
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If a guide doesn't like my muzzle brake I'll find another guide.
I would not want to be in a hunting party with somebody shooting a

rifle with either a muzzle brake, or a caliber which needs one.

Have you let a friend shoot that rifle, and stood a few feet to

either side, while he's pulling the trigger? Many a public range trip

has been ruined for me, by the latest Mag craze,-338 Lapua, with the

obligatory M/B.

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This topic always amuses me. How loud is too loud? ALL centerfire rifles will damage your hearing if you're not wearing protection and if you're wearing hearing protection who cares whether or not it has a muzzle brake.
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That is some great advice!
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