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Old December 2nd, 2016, 10:41 PM   #31
 
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Old December 2nd, 2016, 11:25 PM   #32
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Hunting is a evil word to use around Democrats and these damn anti everything Libtards!!!
Not in my woods of the neck. My Liberal friends LOVE small game and varmint hunting with me.
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In my opinion, hunting hasn't been hunting for a long time. To me, "hunting" means to go and actually pursue and look for the game animal not just sit in a tree stand and wait especially if there's baiting involved. Chuckle a bit when ppl believe they need th latest super ultra maxi-mag to hunt with as well. Seems for a loooooong many years the .32 special, .30-30 and those "obsolete" cartridges did juuuust fine. And with "inferior" bullets at that! Those folks were into the one shot, one kill frame of mind and not just "spray and pray". Nor were they just out to kill something first but instead get a clean humane kill to provide some NEEDED food for their table. sad so much of that ethical way of hunting has vanished.
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In my opinion, hunting hasn't been hunting for a long time. To me, "hunting" means to go and actually pursue and look for the game animal not just sit in a tree stand and wait especially if there's baiting involved. Chuckle a bit when ppl believe they need th latest super ultra maxi-mag to hunt with as well. Seems for a loooooong many years the .32 special, .30-30 and those "obsolete" cartridges did juuuust fine. And with "inferior" bullets at that! Those folks were into the one shot, one kill frame of mind and not just "spray and pray". Nor were they just out to kill something first but instead get a clean humane kill to provide some NEEDED food for their table. sad so much of that ethical way of hunting has vanished.
Have to agree. When I actually look at what hunting is, it's snipping. A good sniper hides and waits for his kill to appear in his cross hairs. The difference is the deer or whatever your game is, is harmless to us as a sniper kills to prevent harm to him and his troops. I'm not a hunter and have nothing against hunting if you really need the meat or crave gammy meat it's all good.
Personally there is plenty of meat already cleaned and packaged in the store. just my 2 cents.
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Not in my woods of the neck. My Liberal friends LOVE small game and varmint hunting with me.
Good! Keep it up. That's how you make disciples out of them and make them not-so-liberal, at least on the second amendment.

Gun control is all fine and dandy when it's someone else's hobby and sport. As soon as it starts to affect a person's own hobby and sport, that's when it sinks in how wrong socialist meddling is.
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In my opinion, hunting hasn't been hunting for a long time. To me, "hunting" means to go and actually pursue and look for the game animal not just sit in a tree stand and wait especially if there's baiting involved. Chuckle a bit when ppl believe they need th latest super ultra maxi-mag to hunt with as well. Seems for a loooooong many years the .32 special, .30-30 and those "obsolete" cartridges did juuuust fine. And with "inferior" bullets at that! Those folks were into the one shot, one kill frame of mind and not just "spray and pray". Nor were they just out to kill something first but instead get a clean humane kill to provide some NEEDED food for their table. sad so much of that ethical way of hunting has vanished.
I agree with most of this. When you ride your 4 wheeler right up to the tree where your stand is, right next to your baited field or trail. Climb the tree and sit in your stand listening to your headphones until the deer walks under you or out on your field...........Hard to call that hunting
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To me, "hunting" means to go and actually pursue and look for the game animal not just sit in a tree stand and wait especially if there's baiting involved.
The problem with a blanket statement like this is one method of hunting isn't applicable to all situations. A good hunter allows the situation to dictate the method.

I've seen a lot of gut shot(or worse) deer because guys had to "kick up" their game, I'd rather sit on a stand and kill with one shot (even if it means hours of not seeing anything) than throw lead at running deer.
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I may be completely wrong on this and you guys might change my mind but... I just watched a cabelles commercial and its game cameras, multi hundreds of dollars of camo, and all types of stuff I don't use. Hunting seems to have gotten more like ranching than anything else. What happend to staying still and actually staying out and watching what the woods are doing? You don't need all this stuff. However you hunt though, good luck this fall.

Hunting is what you the individual make it. I am an old fart and grew up shoot a Long Bow and a Recurve totally "bare bow". No sights, kisser buttons, no string releases (a finger tab or three finger glove), no mechanical or expandable broadheads, no rangefinders (you had to train yourself to estimate range). I could keep going but you get the idea. Look at Black Powder Hunting and how it started with very basic black powder iron sighted rifles and now they have been changed to 400 yard scoped long range weapons. Of course people do not have to buy all the latest gadgets and gizmos. There are still men who hunt barebow with longbows and truly primitive black powder rifles like our forefathers hunted with. The choice is yours! What is important to you? Why do you hunt? Is it about the kill or is it about the hunt? When was the last time you honestly asked yourself those questions?

I'm blessed because I grew up with an American Indian best friend and my family cared about the HUNT and taught me those things. There was no Boy Scout Troop and my father a WWII veteran wanted his son to grow up with those values so he gave up HIS time all the way until I achieved outstanding Eagle Scout of the Southern District of Arkansas. There was no one else so HE gave of himself and I am a better man because of HIS YEARS of sacrifice! There was no "little league" so my dad started and maintained it. Unlike many ungrateful kids today I recognized what my father did and what he gave up! That is why I worked so hard! I know some of my fellow kids thought because he was my father maybe he was handing me things but all the way through scouting when everyone else's passing grade on tests was 75% mine was 90%. I understood however my father wanted me to learn and excel not just get by and I did. I became "Order of the Arrow, and even more "Blood Brother" to my best friend. We hunted the animals of the forests with our minds and learned all we could about them. We wanted to understand them, how they lived, and to appreciate their passing for our benefit.

So like I say it is up to each of us to make of hunting what we will. The best elk hunt I ever had was five days I spent in thick blowdown timber with a bull elk. At times I was so close to him, I could smell him, and water was still filling his tracks yet I never saw him because it was so thick and dark in there. That old bull took me to school and he won. I learned more during those five days than during the previous five years about hunting mature Bull Elk and I Loved Every Second Of It! That was HUNTING!

A friend at work told me how his brother down in Colorado decided he was going to take up bow hunting so he bought a compound bow with all the latest gadgets on it and practiced with it all year long went out into the mountains and parked his 4X4 on an old closed logging road walked about a hundred yards down that road and out walked a bull elk that never looked his way. His brother arrowed that elk that broke the Colorado State record for the largest elk ever killed with a bow and arrow. Now you tell me who learned more and who enjoyed his hunt more?

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I use a recurve bow. I sit on my tree seat on the ground and have to be very choosy on my shots. I don't feel comfortable taking a monster buck because I don't like seeing things suffer. Small deer only. And even if I don't shoot one, time in the woods is what its about. My survival does not depend on me shooting something.
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I am always amazed at how many "hunters" we get up here from the Bay Area with 3-4, camo-clad, armed guys standing in the back of a Jeep driving around logging roads drinking beer and blasting the radio. It kind of looks like a scene from Crocodile Dundee, yet every so often they get one.
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IMHO, hunting has changed, over the years. It's evolved. Not into some great,

wonderful, modern thing, just a different, new thing.

There are still hunters out there who support, and ensure the survival of

hundreds of minor species, every time the pull the trigger on a major game animal.

Hunters who spend the off season involved with creating and preserving habitat,

forest conservation, and even pollination. There are still the jerks, who don't belong

anywhere near a woods, or a firearm. But game cameras, and other high tech,

as well as better tools, firearms, ammo, stands, and methods have changed the game.
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