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Old April 25th, 2015, 05:23 AM   #46
 
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First of all, I think this is a pretty mundane argument. Who cares?

But I think it depends on the perspective from which you are viewing it.

For example, for you and I, it would be hunting.

However, for a Fish and Wildlife Commission perspective, it would be a harvest of the animals (crop) for which they create habitat (farm).



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Tater : It must have some importance as the topic was addressed in no less than 3 American Hunter issues.
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Apparently the term "harvest" is out there to assure folks that game animals are sort of a resource and if allowed to roam freely they would eventually die usually from cruel or destructive events like being taken down by a pack of coyotes or being tossed through the window of a pickup truck at 83 mph.

While the term "harvest" is sort of dumb it might be appropriate should it convince citizens that game animals are a resource rather than creatures having legal rights equivalent of that of humans.

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How would using the term "harvest" help somebody so twisted as to think animals are equal to people?

IMHO those folks can't be helped (unless sterilized).
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Hookeye: You are correct the term "harvest" will not change the opinion of those who equate animals with people. However a little restraint and even the use of that term might swing someone that is on the fence and unsure of which way to jump. Just my thoughts. Just so you know where I am coming from I have had a hunting license since 1950 and was killing rabbits and birds since '48 which probably makes me older than you, not necessarily more correct though.
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Tater : It must have some importance as the topic was addressed in no less than 3 American Hunter issues.
Yeah, Bob, 'cuz they never talk about anything but the most important issues in magazines....

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That looks pretty interesting if not important! Also the articles are written responses to the magazine article.

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When I was working as a game warden we received a harvest report not a deer killed report.
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If Billy Graham can talk about harvesting souls, I don't have a problem in the world with harvesting deer. Everyone still knows what you mean, and that's all that counts.
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They use the word "harvest" as a euphuism for "kill." I don't think it is used to appease PETA freaks as much as city folk who are frightened by dead things.

I agree that the word "harvest" suggests that you walk into a field and pick a turkey like it was a watermelon. That image completely misrepresents the entire experience.
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Exactly. I'm not the language police, but words have meanings, AND connotations. What I'm talking about is using a word that means one thing, but applying it, as you correctly state, euphemistically, to try to appease folks who don't like the idea that animals must be killed for us to eat them.

Doctors even use "harvest" to make skin and bone grafts sound less scary. They tell the patient "we're going to 'harvest' some bone from your hip, and graft it onto your collarbone." I understand what they're doing, but still. I'm not farming bone and skin to be harvested. It's just me, it's a normal part of my body.

Why is this important? Well, just look at the presidential election in 2008. Obama went around proclaiming he was for hope and change, and that he would "fundamentally transform America." That sounded awful good to lots of voters, and they fell for it. But did they even know what he really meant by his words? In 2009, I heard quite a few people saying "I didn't know he was gonna do that."

Words are very powerful.
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At least they don't say you depredated a deer. I work in wildlife biology and cannot stand that "new" term. Animals do not predate on one another, they PREY. Sheesh. In the same light, I do not depredate animals for control, I kill them. Come on. Predate, I thought, clearly meant to come before something in time PRE and DATE. I'll settle for harvest.
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One of my pet peeves is when hunters use the term "harvest." I'm not sure if that use of the term is intended to mollify PITA members and other anti-hunting folks, but, whatever the reason, it's just wrong.

A harvest is what you end up with when crops you have planted are mature. In the past, harvest was not even a verb. It was strictly a noun. At harvest time, you would reap your crops.

A harvest is only for things that have been planted and farmed. If you go out and pick wild berries, that's not a harvest, it's gathering.

When I lived I Louisiana, if anyone had come back from the woods and said they'd "harvested" a deer, I'm pretty sure folks would have looked at them kinda funny. Down there, if you find out someone was out hunting, the proper response is "ya kill anything?"

I can't recall hunters here in Wisconsin ever harvesting any animals either. Mostly, they say they "got" a deer, or even "I shot a big six-pointer." When you know someone is back from hunting, you ask "did you get a deer?"

Harvesting. This world is in awful big trouble.
Agreed 100%....you "hunt" animals,and "harvest" crops...."harvest" is a terminalogy applied to placate the antis....stupid really.
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I got into this with a coworker today. He was trying to call his daughter to see if she harvested a deer. I asked him if she had one those new deer combines. He asked what I was talking about. I told him you kill animals and you harvest plants. He said yeah I know but after you kill it you got to harvest it. I told him after you kill it you gut it then you skin it then you cut it up and wrap it and put it in the freezer.
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I got into this with a coworker today. He was trying to call his daughter to see if she harvested a deer. I asked him if she had one those new deer combines. He asked what I was talking about. I told him you kill animals and you harvest plants. He said yeah I know but after you kill it you got to harvest it. I told him after you kill it you gut it then you skin it then you cut it up and wrap it and put it in the freezer.
It's pretty bad if this kind of thing has spread to places like Minnesota. As I think I said in my original post, here in Wisconsin most people ask did you "get" a deer. When I lived in Louisiana, it was much more to the point. If someone came back from hunting, you asked them "ya kill anything?"

Here in Wisconsin our dairy farmers milk this cows. I wonder, is the day coming went they go out to the barn to harvest milk. Man, I sure hope not.
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