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Old April 16th, 2015, 07:31 PM   #31
 
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All just political correctness with words, some to blame some to appease. They feel they have to twist a meaning to distract from the detractors opinion of any subject. That is just going along to get along. If you can't put your cards on the table without a fight then why appease, just get to the fighting!



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There is no twisted meaning, the term "harvest" can be used as a noun or a verb. As a noun it can be defined as "the result or consequence of any act, process, or event". As a verb paired with an object, it can mean "to gain, win, acquire, use, catch, take, remove for use, etc". I have heard this term used with hunting and animal population management my entire life.

Writers have been using it such as..........."the journey yielded a harvest of wonderful memories". Of course I guess you could say, "it was a cool trip, we saw some neat stuff"................LOL!!!
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There is no twisted meaning, the term "harvest" can be used as a noun or a verb. As a noun it can be defined as "the result or consequence of any act, process, or event". As a verb paired with an object, it can mean "to gain, win, acquire, use, catch, take, remove for use, etc". I have heard this term used with hunting and animal population management my entire life.

Writers have been using it such as..........."the journey yielded a harvest of wonderful memories". Of course I guess you could say, "it was a cool trip, we saw some neat stuff"................LOL!!!
Well, there are two separate issues here. Without digressing too much, there is the whole "language police" thing. English is a wonderful language, in part because it does evolve over time. While I may not like the use of author, or parent as verbs, it's probably a lost cause to object to it. At the same time, there are many other recent slang and colloquial developments that make our language all the better, and that I have to admit I really like.

My issue is with using language for political correctness. I don't like it that "harvest" is used to make hunting and fishing sound more palatable.
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My issue is with using language for political correctness. I don't like it that "harvest" is used to make hunting and fishing sound more palatable.
I was born in Wisconsin and have hunted here since the early 60s. Both the DNR and many hunters I know have been using the term "Harvest" that whole time to describe the taking of game. Never once has it upset me. Guess I must have better things to do with my time than whine what terms folks use for hunting. I support all hunters and their right to hunt, regardless of what they call it. Chastising fellow hunters because they use the term harvest is not sticking together, but dividing. Something that is much more destructive to our sport than using politically correct terminology.

BTW.......I went hunting for Jerusalem Artichokes yesterday and harvested a 5 gallon pail of them. Last week I went Turkey Hunting and harvested a nice boss Tom on Friday morning. In the next few weeks I will be hunting for Morels and when I get lucky enough to find some, I'm gonna harvest them too. All of the above are highly palatable.......
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Game laws and seasons are determined by politicians. They use sound biology but they also yield to presure from Joe citizen. Some of these people know nothing about wildlife management or the part hunting plays in it but many want to stop hunting completely. As responsible hunters we need to do whatever we can not to inflame the enemy. It could be as simple as not saying you killed somethig but harvested it. If you are a hunter it's in your best interest. I killed a deer once and didn't butcher him but took him back to camp. I had my Cherokee and no tarp so my son and I threw him on the roof. It's tolerated in the rural areas where I hunt but if I tried that where I live these citified people would be outraged someone might even call 911. As proud as I am of a buck kill, excuse me harvest, I am obligated to cover him up so as not to upset the delicate sensibilities of the anti-hunting crowd that outnumber me.
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It doesn't bother me in that I've gotten used to it.
Sort of like defensive pistol classes. Back in the eighties we called them combat handgun classes, not they are "defensive". Funny thing is, nowadays the students and their instructor actually look like they are dressed for combat.
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As good nimrods we try to use good stewardship of game and land so we don't deplete any resources just like land we plant and rotate crops to not deplete the soil. I hunt in hope of my good stewardship and knowledge will give me the harvest of resources I've tried to maintain.I want to fill my freezer and others fill their walls.Both types need to keep an eye on the resource to make sure its maintained so all can pick of its fruit.
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Hate the term "harvest".

I kill deer and eat them. There's not one darn thing wrong with it either.

Refuse to let the lefties play their game with my friggin' language.

We (as a group) give in a little here, and a little there. Screw that. Push back.
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C'mon - you guys use "politically correct" language on a regular basis.

If I come on here and use words that rhyme with duck, pit, grass, ram, etc, the programming would "[beep]" it out, and the programming misses it, then the mods would change it, and warn me, maybe even banish me for using those words. If my 2yr old uses one of those rhyming words, I'd wash his mouth out with soap. If I'm sitting around a board room with certain folks, a colloquial term for kitty cat would not breech anyone's lips, but after the meeting, if the same group of professionals visit a bar for drinks, even a bar where dollar bills have particular importance, then that word suddenly becomes appropriate in its given context. I know a lot of farmers that have uttered a phrase similar to "dog rammit" when we're working on their inconveniently broken down equipment, but such a phrase would never leave their mouth in the presence of their wife, kids, pastor, mother, father, etc.

Don't take unnecessary shots at other hunters for trying to not stir up a pot of BS. Stand up and make us all look bad, then none of us other hunters that were trying to keep the peace will have anything good to say about you.

But ultimately - in this particular instance, you're just flat wrong. The use of "Harvest" isn't something that came about in recent years because of any lib-tard pressure. It's been in use for that for hundreds of years.
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Now let's start writing about "boolits".
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Now let's start writing about "boolits".
I belive that's from our friends at cast boolits. That actually bothers me.
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Years ago in college I took some wildlife management classes.
Didn't use the H word then, won't use it now.

While it may have been in use some time back, IMHO it wasn't fashionable until recent.

What next....camo pants worn so Under Armor undies mostly show?

New TV show for the urban food worshipers.........."Saggin and Taggin' !"

That nonsense would fit right in with most of the "outdoor" TV shows.
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I don't like the term harvest at all except when it applies to crops. On the other hand when talking to non-hunters about our pastime I use terms like take, shot, or got. When describing my shooting to the same people I describe the shot placement that kills instantly. I do this so as to not further alienate a non-hunter and perhaps bring him/her to see our side in a positive light, which to me is far more important than any ego thing about what word I use. There has been quite a discussion in the American Hunter about this subject.
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Well, if you sit in a blind by a feeder the term "harvest" might be more applicable

When it comes to any discussion "know your audience".

IMHO anti hunters to an overwhelming majority don't give a dayam about logic.
It's a waste of time trying to play nice with them.

Even if you do get them to see your side or agree, their lib buddy will soon after have them as they were.

Save your energy.
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Well, if you sit in a blind by a feeder the term "harvest" might be more applicable

When it comes to any discussion "know your audience".

IMHO anti hunters to an overwhelming majority don't give a dayam about logic.
It's a waste of time trying to play nice with them.

Even if you do get them to see your side or agree, their lib buddy will soon after have them as they were.

Save your energy.
That's the trouble we give up! I feel it is worth the effort to at least get them to be understanding if not supportive.
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