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Old April 16th, 2015, 06:18 AM   #16
 
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What I bite my tongue on is when a non-hunter asks "Did you catch a deer?". Oh yea I used corn on the cob and a 20-0 hook with 800 yards of 200# braid. Instead I reply yes I killed a deer.
I thought my ex wife was the only one that said that.



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Here in Texas, hunters go to the deer lease and set up feeders to get the deer into a pattern of arriving for their daily feeding, Then on opening day, the hunter is there with their rifle when they arrive.

Contrast this to the state where I was born, where you can't even throw out a salt block without a fear of a game warden coming and confiscating your hunting gear.
There the hunters start the hunt well before opening day of deer season. They are in the woods looking for signs of where the big bucks are traveling. Then on opening day of deer season, the hunter is out in a tree stand that was placed based on his previous ground work where hopefully his prey comes within range.

I have no problem with either method, but one does seem fit the description of a harvest, while the other falls well within the definition of a hunt.
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Back in Wisconsin in the late 50's and early 60's it was how many deer were taken during the season, or did you take a deer, or fill your tag this year. Some would also say did you kill your deer, or get your deer. How many pheasant or partridge did you get this year? or how many cottontails? or ducks?
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Here in Texas, hunters go to the deer lease and set up feeders to get the deer into a pattern of arriving for their daily feeding, Then on opening day, the hunter is there with their rifle when they arrive.

Contrast this to the state where I was born, where you can't even throw out a salt block without a fear of a game warden coming and confiscating your hunting gear.
There the hunters start the hunt well before opening day of deer season. They are in the woods looking for signs of where the big bucks are traveling. Then on opening day of deer season, the hunter is out in a tree stand that was placed based on his previous ground work where hopefully his prey comes within range.

I have no problem with either method, but one does seem fit the description of a harvest, while the other falls well within the definition of a hunt.
That is a great explanation and I agree 100%.
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We are in a pitiful state as a society when we have to choose and use words so we don't offend someone else by doing something that we have a right and privilege to do. I don't sugar coat things just to make someone else feel better. When I kill a deer that's what I say I did. I killed a deer, Turkey, bear, squirrel, pheasant, grouse, whatever needed killing. I killed it. I only kill what I'll eat. Tired of having to twist my words just so someone isn't getting butthurt!
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I thought you reaped what you sow.
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Back in Wisconsin in the late 50's and early 60's it was how many deer were taken during the season, or did you take a deer, or fill your tag this year. Some would also say did you kill your deer, or get your deer. How many pheasant or partridge did you get this year? or how many cottontails? or ducks?
Well, traditionally outdoors writers have tended to use "take." I kind of like that, as it's intended to show respect for the animal.
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To be blunt, I trust the folks that write the dictionary MORE than I trust your opinion about the definition of the word "Harvest".

Merriam Webster Dictionary definition of "Harvest"
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Full Definition of HARVEST

1: the season for gathering in agricultural crops

2: the act or process of gathering in a crop

3 a : a mature crop (as of grain or fruit) : yield
b : the quantity of a natural product gathered in a single season <deer harvest> <ice harvest>

4: an accumulated store or productive result <a harvest of revenue>
And since we're talking about definitions "PITA" is an colloquial acronym for "Pain In The A$$", or "pita" is a type of flat-bread sandwich and a type of plant. I believe that you meant "PETA," as in the "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals."
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We are in a pitiful state as a society when we have to choose and use words so we don't offend someone else by doing something that we have a right and privilege to do. I don't sugar coat things just to make someone else feel better. When I kill a deer that's what I say I did. I killed a deer, Turkey, bear, squirrel, pheasant, grouse, whatever needed killing. I killed it. I only kill what I'll eat. Tired of having to twist my words just so someone isn't getting butthurt!
I agree. Those that get their feelings hurt by what we say, should just stay home behind locked doors and play video games and live in their fantasy world.

Your explanation is perfect! No gray, Just well defined black and white, where it is what it is.
The world could use more of that!
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Well, on the flip side, I was huntin' for a flash light a coupla' nights ago!!!!
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To be blunt, I trust the folks that write the dictionary MORE than I trust your opinion about the definition of the word "Harvest".

Merriam Webster Dictionary definition of "Harvest"


And since we're talking about definitions "PITA" is an colloquial acronym for "Pain In The A$$", or "pita" is a type of flat-bread sandwich and a type of plant. I believe that you meant "PETA," as in the "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals."
Varminterror, the group PETA (People for the Ethical treatment of animals) has changed the meaning to (People Eating Tasty Animals) I've got the T-shirt!
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Harvest?? When I shoot a squirrel chewing up my garden, he is killed, period. I didn't harvest the little SOB, I killed him while IT harvested my peas, or whatever.
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It's a term I've heard all my life, never gave it much thought.
as in harvested from nature's bounty
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We are in a pitiful state as a society when we have to choose and use words so we don't offend someone else by doing something that we have a right and privilege to do. I don't sugar coat things just to make someone else feel better. When I kill a deer that's what I say I did. I killed a deer, Turkey, bear, squirrel, pheasant, grouse, whatever needed killing. I killed it. I only kill what I'll eat. Tired of having to twist my words just so someone isn't getting butthurt!
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I could go through a whole list of politically correct terms that rub me the wrong way but harvesting pertaining to hunting is not one of them. It's been in use for quite a while. Wildlife biologist use the term very comfortably. Most game animals are "managed" hows that term strike you. I keep hearing deer herds are larger now in our urbanized country then they were back in the 1800-early 1900's through proper management and limiting the harvest. I guess the term is used to put taking deer in perspective. Deer are allowed to reproduce and the numbers that are allowed by law to be killed is limited and managed so deer killed can be likened to a harvest to equate it with responsibly limiting deer kills so more can be harvested in the future.
Yea, as managed as 'wildlife' is these days, harvesting seems quite appropriate at times.
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