funkymonkey1111

locked up and out of sight. you walk into may house, you will never know there are or are not firearms there. my neighbors don't know, either.

no NRA stickers, no nothing. i can't even conceive of having a gun on display in my home. but, they're there, i know where they are, you don't, and that's my advantage. I am the grey man

jstawasz

The difference between electronics and a firearm is that I've never heard of anyone being shot and killed with a stolen PS3 or a laptop. In many States, if your firearms are stolen through your negligence, then you can be held liable for any crimes committed with those weapons. In that case replacement of your stolen property will be the least of your worries. The thing that kills me about people being too stingy to buy a safe is that you can get a top of the line safe for the price of one quality rifle scope or one low cost pistol (a SR1911 for instance). Some of my weapons would pay for three or four safes. Talk about "penny wise and pound foolish".

funkymonkey1111

which states are those?

refugeepj

i had a burglary some years back. the puke bucket got one revolver that was locked in a cabinet for my convience. the collection in the safes was protected but my sp101 was not. i advise anyone who owns weapons to keep the ones not being carried secured in a safe. the thought that a revolver i owned could be used in the commision of a crime bothers me to this day. the theft was 10 years ago, but i am still angry.

Yiogo

Life is about choices. I choose to turn on my house alarm when I leave. My guns are always locked in a gun safe. My external back up drives get locked in the gun safe. My computers are password protected. When we go on vacation my computers get locked in the safe too. The safe is anchored to a concrete floor. Yiogo

jstawasz

I should have said all States. You would not necessarily, be tried in a criminal case but if it could be proven that you were negligent then you would definitely be open to a civil suit. It's like leaving the keys in your car with the doors open and a child kills them self or someone else. The same thing applies to swimming pools. In Florida, If you don't have a fence with a locked gate and your neighbor's child drowns in your pool you're in deep DooDoo. Personally, I would feel like a real piece of crap if someone lost their life because of my carelessness. It says a lot about the moral state of this country that some people don't give a damn unless there's a Law making them responsible for their bad behavior. If you wouldn't be personally devastated if some one dies because of your carelessness then I feel sorry for you. Are you the kind of person that would leave power tools plugged in on your front yard unattended with small children? Firearms are dangerous tools. When we take possession of them, we also take responsibility for them. JMHO

Mikeyd555

Those that have the freedom to choose are lucky. In Canada it's basically unloaded with trigger locks or unloaded in a safe. That's for shotguns and rifles.

Handguns have to be unloaded, with trigger locks and locked in an opaque container; or can be unloaded and in a safe without trigger locks.

Either that or build an impervious fortress in your house with reinforced walls and the whole shootin' match..."they" say that's ok too. How kind of "them".

Yiogo

No, my friend, we are not lucky. Mikey, the blood of patriots, since 1776 and on up in every war we've fought, has been spilled to guarantee our 2nd Amendment rights. We are still fighting to keep them and it's not easy. The NRA is in the trenches as we speak. But I know what you are saying. I thank God I can stick my 9 mm in a pocket holster and take it with me on walks and I know you can't. Consider joining your national gun rights organization if you have not done so. US citizens who enjoy their 2nd amendment rights please join the NRA. Yiogo

Mikeyd555

Completely understood. No disrespect for those that have and continue to fight for our rights.

funkymonkey1111

Are you capable of a response without the foolish editorializing? You stated, without equivocation, that in some states you can be held criminally liable for crimes committed with those weapons. And, to be clear, this is exactly what you said: "In many States, if your firearms are stolen through your negligence, then you can be held liable for any crimes committed with those weapons."

So, my question for you is--what are the "many" states that hold the owner of a stolen firearm liable for crimes committed with those stolen weapons?

How I would feel about the use of a stolen gun of mine in a crime is frankly irrelevant to your answer. So, please enlighten us.

wsteinborn

Back when I lived in a tiny town South of Denver, I had the long guns in a rack. (1980s)

Now, everything is in a safe or pocket....

Revoliver

I agree with this.

Hans13

I made a stand that doesn't lock them up and they stand in the middle of my room. It holds my 10/22 and my Red Rider BB gun (It doesn't work anymore, it's just sentimental; First "gun" I owned.) Then I made my own safe (10"X8"X8") out of 3/8 inch steel welded together and am looking for a way to bolt it to something or at least chain. I'll be putting my Blackhawk in it. I'm 16 and going to be buying my own vehicle and insurance fairly soon so I'm not really financially able to buy myself a safe. Though a good idea is to catalog your guns. Write down the serial numbers and attachments and taking pictures.

KCOG

Back in The Day I used to put them in a really nice hand made gun cabinet. One of my sons "Friends" broke in and stole a S&W 686. Now days I keep everything locked up in a safe in a locked work room in a locked house. I do not show my guns to anyone except my brother when he visits. If I show someone a gun it will only be in self defence.

Mayor Al

A related question... Has anyone ever made a claim for insurance coverage for stolen/lost guns using the $2500 policy that is part of the NRA Membership thing now? I hope I never have too, but I am wondering if it is "Real" or just marketing BS from the Organization.