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Old July 7th, 2011, 06:39 AM   #1
 
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Electronic ear muffs question: Howard Leight vs Peltor

I'm considering getting a new pair of electronic ear muffs, something better than my current $25 job that's been hissing and crackling for some time now. Has anybody used both HL's Impact and Peltor's Tactical Pro? The price difference is almost 3:1, and I'm curious if the Peltor's are that much better.




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I have Pelters Tatical 7 model I purchased about 12 years ago and just this week I replaced the foam wind screens. The unit still works like the day I got it.

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Bought a new set last year, $75.00.
Did not have a brand, they were monogrammed with our SSAA logo.
Would have been a reputable brand though and they would have bought thousands.
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I have Pelters Tatical 7 model I purchased about 12 years ago and just this week I replaced the foam wind screens. The unit still works like the day I got it.
I have the same "set" that you do and they work great. When I work the firing line during our ranges "deer sight-in" weekends, I would lift one side of a normal set of ear muffs to hear what the shooter was telling me and then somebody would shoot. Hard on the ear drums. Once I started using the Pelter 7's I can hear people talk just fine but, the neat thing is, they shut off when somebody shoots. I even wear these when I'm sitting in my tree stand during gun-season here. It's amazing how you can hear deer walking along in crisp leaves long before they show up in a shooting lane. And the 9-volt battery seems to last forever.
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I can only comment on the Peltor's Tactical Pro. I attribute my tinnitus to guns, except it was nail guns. Anyway, I use the Peltor's on the range and hunting now so the 30 06 doesn't further the damage. I have worn them in the worst of weather, torrential rains, etc., and they continue to work perfectly. My brother has the Howard Lights and they work good on the range. He hasn't really torture tested them yet, so that part remains to be seen.
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I use the Peltor's on the range and hunting now... My brother has the Howard Lights and they work good on the range.
So, did you and your brother ever swap your ear mufffs just to see how the other brand feels and works?
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Mr Sasquatch, Good question, and yes I did. One weekend I forgot my Peltor's so my brother donated his HL's. (Only fair since he was using my nice Marlin 336 - not as loud as the Remington 7600.) I wore them all day in the mountains, and I found them to work fine, comfortable, etc. The only caveat is that the weather was perfect, so I can't compare the electronics after a week of soaking rain. The HL's seem to be a good bargain for the money, and I can recommend them for range and fair weather. They might work as good or better in sleet and rain, it's just that I don't have personal knowledge about that.
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I lost a lot of my hearing shooting back in the 50's without ear protection. I now wear a pair of muffs along with a set of custom made earplugs. That works great but I have to take off the muffs and the plugs to hear anyone say anything. I might give an electronic set a try. Do they really cut the sound of a shot in time to prevent ear damage? Also, is there any particular feature that I should be looking for? Thanks.
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Below are my postings to a similar thread on another forum:

I am 74 years old and have about 5% hearing in both ears. I have tried hearing aids two different times for several months. I absolutely hated them. They didn't really do that much for me for conversations and completely amplified all the noises I didn't want to hear.
I have been shooting outdoors, by myself and using foam plugs and muffs with 30 NRR. They work very well.
I am now in the process of joining a club and at the orientation, just using the muffs, I could not hear ANYONE talking. I presume from that I need the electronic muffs to be able to hear the range commands.
The confusing part is that most of the highly rated electronics are only rated around 20 NRR. This is 1/3 less than my regular muffs. And, if I wear plug under the electronics, won't the plugs keep me from hearing with the electronics?
Appreciate any help, clarification, etc?

MY UPDATE:
Just got a set of Peltor Tactical Support electronic muffs. I will try them with the plugs when I get to the range. I'm not really impressed at this point. If I wear them in the house I cannot clearly understand anything from the TV. Maybe they will work better at the range.

Hoping to be able to try them out next Thursday.
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I lost a lot of my hearing shooting back in the 50's without ear protection. I now wear a pair of muffs along with a set of custom made earplugs. That works great but I have to take off the muffs and the plugs to hear anyone say anything. I might give an electronic set a try. Do they really cut the sound of a shot in time to prevent ear damage? Also, is there any particular feature that I should be looking for? Thanks.
Yes, electronic muffs will cut the amplification (and convert to "passive" noise reduction) fast enough to prevent ear damage. What they give you is the amplification of any sounds other than shots, i.e., anything less than ~80dB. This means that commands from the RO, and conversation with other shooters, will be easier to hear even if you wear ear plugs under the muffs. Since the muffs do not use the noise cancelation method, just turning off the amplification when loud noise is detected, it is still important to use the highest NRR you can find. I, personally, use custom ear plugs outdoors and plugs+muffs indoors. Without the electronic sound amplification I cannot hear the RO indoors. I need electronic muffs for safety reasons and I would not go any lower then NRR of 22.
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I am 74 years old and have about 5% hearing in both ears. ...
Except for being 14 years younger and still having about 60% of my hearing it appears we are pretty much in the same boat. Let me know how the electronic muffs work on the range. Thanks.
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Except for being 14 years younger and still having about 60% of my hearing it appears we are pretty much in the same boat. Let me know how the electronic muffs work on the range. Thanks.
Will do. Should compete my membership Wednesday evening, and plan on trying the muffs Thursday.
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I went with the Peltor SV Tactical Pro muffs. Pricy, but absolutely no compromise. I cannot afford any more hearing loss, so these work for me. My review on Amazon.com:

Amazon.com: Roger J. Buffington's review of Peltor MT15H7F SV Tactical Pro Hearing Pro...
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I have two pair of the Peltor Tac 7s. They are worth every penny of their price. I'll guess that you have only one pair of ears, thus are they not worth a bit over $100 to keep them working properly? Mine are.

The only negative thing I have to say about the Peltors is that when shooting indoors, the echo will get you (DUH!). That's when I wear the Ultimate-10s.

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Went out Thursday morning as a new club member and shot on a range for the first time ever. Met some nice and helpful people.
Tried my Peltor Tactical Sport muffs. I was suprised at how well they worked. I could actually carry on conversations with them on, something it is very hard to do with my own ears. Wasn't a lot of shooting going on, and I think the largest was 9mm. Most was .22. Monday I will try my 45ACP and see how they work there.
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