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Old July 22nd, 2010, 08:02 PM   #1
 
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Why no built-in lasers

Since I put CTC grips on my sp101 (old eyes) I've wondered why gun manufacturers (like Ruger) haven't designed a laser right into their guns. Seems like a fairly simple thing to do, since I see Laserlyte is even offering a laser incorporated into a replacement rear sight. August AmRifleman, page 76. Seems like Ruger could be capturing a lot of $$$ that are now going to the after-market folks. Any thoughts?



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Old July 22nd, 2010, 08:06 PM   #2
 
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I would love to see it happen, I think there would be multiple issues slowing this process down...
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Old July 23rd, 2010, 01:47 PM   #3
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I know we are talking about Ruger here but Smith and Wesson has done just what you are talking about in there Bodyguard line of pistols. The laser is built in and you can not buy the gun without it.

Product: BODYGUARD® 380

BODYGUARD 38 - Smith & Wesson
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I know we are talking about Ruger here but Smith and Wesson has done just what you are talking about in there Bodyguard line of pistols. The laser is built in and you can not buy the gun without it.

Product: BODYGUARD® 380

BODYGUARD 38 - Smith & Wesson
I was at the LGS yesterday to look at the 1911's but Larry the counter guy was excited to show me the Bodyguard S&Ws. I realy liked the 38. They changed the latch to fit on top so it is easy for both right and left handed folks. Not bad.
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Old July 23rd, 2010, 07:31 PM   #5
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I am assuming you actually go to handle them. If so did you get to handle both the semi auto and the revolver. I would love to get anymore info on the fit and finish and the feel of the gun if you get a chance. I am very interested in getting on. Have not decided on the revolver or the semi yet but I am looking into it.
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Love that idea!!
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I'm all for guide rod lasers. If that isn't pointed at what you're gonna shot, you have real problems! Plenty for Glocks and others. Would like to see some for Rugers.
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The smaller size lasers use very tiny batteries. I found I was having to buy new batteries as they are not Lithium's and they die even if you do not use them. Went to a CT Laserguard with its N size Lithium battery and these last a while. Something to keep in mind when buying lasers.
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The smaller size lasers use very tiny batteries. I found I was having to buy new batteries as they are not Lithium's and they die even if you do not use them. Went to a CT Laserguard with its N size Lithium battery and these last a while. Something to keep in mind when buying lasers.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 03:31 PM   #10
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I see Laserlyte makes a sight laser (RL-RP) for the P95. Has anyone used one or have any reports about them?
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Ruger actually did make a pistol, the P94L with an integral laser module years back. They were TacStar lasers but issues with the batteries resulted in them being discontinued with only a little over one thousand actually being made.
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As for the battery problem, what would be wrong with having the battery in the magazine? It would make it slightly more complicated, but if there was a small lithium ion or li-po cell in the mag, they could go in a charger base of sorts at night and then when you put the mag in to fire it is always ready to go.
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I'll bet the primary reason that various gun manufacturers do - not - include lasers is cost.
How many do they have to sell just to break even on manufacturing cost?

As noted above they tried a model with the built in laser and it didn't sell well enough to make a unique model worth the tooling cost. Since people like CT already make some very good lasers AND have spent the money on tooling and development, it sounds like there would be minimal profit, if any.
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As for the battery problem, what would be wrong with having the battery in the magazine? It would make it slightly more complicated, but if there was a small lithium ion or li-po cell in the mag, they could go in a charger base of sorts at night and then when you put the mag in to fire it is always ready to go.
You would need an electrical contact from the mag to the pistol and when that got worn the laser wouldn't work.
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The new S&W BG series is about as built in as I ever want to see. Making it modular so it works without it is fine with me. More than making it integral, I would rather see a smaller version of a rail system designed. Any smaller handgun size design that went mainstream would work as long as it was strong enough. The last thing I want to see is handguns go the way tv/vcr combos went.
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