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Old February 27th, 2017, 04:19 AM   #1
 
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Super Blackhawk scope base

I'm considering getting a scope for my SBH. I like the Weaver mount because it doesn't require modifying the gun with drilling and tapping (or does it? Am I misunderstanding?).
But it looks like it sits up kind of high. Is there another one out there that doesn't require permanently modifying the gun, and sits pretty low?

Also, if that's my only option, is it a good mount?



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Old February 27th, 2017, 05:28 AM   #2
 
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You are correct that the Weaver mount requires no permanent modifications to the gun. You just remove the rear sight. Be sure to bag, label, and store those parts in a safe place! The mount works well for me.
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I'm glad to hear that. Do you have any trouble getting under the scope to reach the hammer?
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I have the Weaver also and like it very much. I dont know of any other manufacturers who make a no-gunsmith mount for the Super.

I'm not easy with my loads and it's never loostened. And i don't have Loc-Tite on any of the screws.

And, to answer your other question, there is plenty of room to access the hammer.



My advice on the scope is to keep it lower power. I have the 2.5x-8x Weaver on it and when cranked up to 8x, it's difficult to hold steady and keep your eye aligned. My advice would be to use the money you'd spend on a variable and spend it on an upgraded quality fixed power at 3x or 4x.

Good luck.

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I'm glad to hear that. Do you have any trouble getting under the scope to reach the hammer?
No problem getting to the hammer at all. I am happy with the set-up. I load 250gr .44cal cast bullets for a pleasurable target load. It shoots great at 25yds, but the stock trigger limits my shooting at longer range. This Ruger will get trigger work done when funds allow.
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Thanks for that tip, I'm just learning it. I got a used CZ 527M carbine with a Leupold scope on it Friday before last. First time I've fooled with a scope in about ten years.

I'm thinking of getting a Leupold M8 4X. By all accounts, it sounds like it's still a great scope and they're affordable, but I guess it's been out of production for a while?
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I always used a 2xscope onmy super blackhawk and took a goodly number of deer.
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I put a Leupold 2X on a Maximum using a Weaver mount.

It's relatively straightforward to install. I did find it necessary to do a little shimming to get the front attachment secured to the base itself when I had the rear attachment secured. That is, when I had the rear attachment screwed down snug, there was a small gap between the front end of the base and the top of that "ring" that wraps around the barrel. Didn't want to put the mount in a bind, so I shimmed that little gap. No problem.

The arrangement works as it should. The fact that the scope sits a little high just provides easy access to the hammer.

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Can you provide a pic please?
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Sorry, I'm photo-incapable. I'll try a better explanation.

Separated base from the "ring" that slips over the barrel.

Removed Ruger rear sight.

Screwed base into rear sight location, screw "snug".

Slip "ring" over barrel and slide it to the rear so it's under the base, holes aligned.

Notice a gap between the bottom of the base and the top of the "ring".

Put screw thru base into "ring" and notice that even with screw pulled tight enough to be sure "ring" is solidly against underside of barrel, the gap is still present.

Cut a few small shims from an aluminum beer can and punch hole for screw.

Remove screw,slip shims into gap until no gap remains, reinstall screw and "snug it up". Base is now solid. Check screws just to be sure.

That's how I did it. Perhaps not all applications will have the gap I observed. It's also possible that the reverse might be true, wherein you discover that with the ring snugged into place there's a gap at the rear end in the stock sight location. Same fix would apply, starting with the front end tight and shimming the rear end.

Or you might luck out and have no problem whatsoever. Good luck.

All JMHO, of course.

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I think you can see what he is referring to in Aqualung's photo. The front part of the Weaver mount is a stirrup that is open on the bottom to allow it to slide over the barrel. In the mounted position you can see the small gap at the top of the barrel. It is engineered to be that way. I don't believe any shimming is necessary. The screw at the rear pulls down on the mount while the stirrup pulls up on the barrel just in front of the frame. By the way, my Swift scope is a 2x and it shows how much I wobble. Beware too much magnification on a handgun.
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I didn't shim between the barrel and the saddle, I shimmed between the saddle and the base. Yes, there is a small gap between the top of the barrel and the underside of the ring when things are tight.

I didn't say he would need to shim anything, just that he might need to.

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I think I still have the original box with installation instructions for the mount. I'll try to find them. My recollection was that the rear screw was the last thing to tighten down, not the first. I have a class tonight, but I'll check on that ASAP.
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Oh thanks, I was unaware it was actually a two piece design.
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And I had a typo earlier, it's the Leupold M8 2X I've been eyeballing, not the 4X.
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