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Old March 1st, 2017, 03:34 AM   #16
 
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The M8 2X is the scope I have. I like it.

And by all means try to follow the instructions. It's just that the potential for tolerance accumulation between the mount and the gun can -- not necessarily will -- present situations requiring a little "adjustment".




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Here's my Bisley Blackhawk with the Weaver mount. I've had it on there for almost 30 years with no problems.

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The M8 2X is the scope I have. I like it.

And by all means try to follow the instructions. It's just that the potential for tolerance accumulation between the mount and the gun can -- not necessarily will -- present situations requiring a little "adjustment".

Wait, instructions? What are those? That little booklet that tells you where all the extra parts COULD have gone? 😁
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This is a long post, but please read and see if y'all can help me out.

I don't know a whole hella lot about scopes. I mentioned the last one I handled was about ten years ago, until last weekend. Well I guess maybe I just like my new carbine and it's Leupold so much that I completely forgot about the scopes for the rimfires I got about a month ago.

So what I've got right now at home is a Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10 on my new used CZ carbine.
A Simmons 8 point 4X cheapo on my son's Marlin 60.
A vintage Weaver Classic 400 USA on my own Marlin 60. Found that one in a junk store for $10!

I zeroed the Simmons on my Marlin but decided mostly for aesthetic reasons to move it to my son's rifle and mount the Weaver on mine. The only non aesthetic reason is that the Weaver seems to have a slightly shorter and less forgiving eye relief. Clarity seems equal to me, but the Weaver also matches my rifle better while the Simmons matches his better and I think it'll be easier for him to use. Neither have been zeroed since then, I'll be doing that soon, hopefully this week.

That's the absolute full extent of my experiences owning scopes. I can shoot, I'm a Marine Rifleman vet. I managed 1" groups at 100 yards with my CZ on our first trip to the range together. The adjustments are self explanatory, so zeroing is not an issue.
All other prior experience with a scope has been some buddy or another with a scoped rifle saying, "Here, try this out."
Last time that happened was 2004 in Afghanistan, when my squad's DM and I traded hardware on the range. He got giggles out of shooting a belt fed full auto, my M249 SAW, and I had fun TRYING to produce ragged holes with his SAM-R. Got real close, but no cigar.

So, now you all know my full history with scopes so you can understand better where I'm coming from with some of these stupid questions. The reason I'm going to scopes is the same reason lots of other folks do, I'm having trouble with irons. I just don't know much about what to look for in a scope.

I kind of have my heart set on that Leupold model I mentioned, maybe because I like my current one so much. But I'm also on a budget, which is why I'm looking at used scopes. I've bid on 4 so far, and have been outbid each time at the last moment.

So two questions.
The first is, what are some other scope brands and models that are equal to or better than the Leupold M8 2X that can be found new or used for less than $200?

The second question is, how big of a problem is this?

These are a couple of very small little dents, I suspect caused by over tightening scope rings.
It seems to be getting very slow and low bids and I'm wondering if those dents are the reason. So, is this acceptable damage on a used scope?

Should I place a bid if I don't find a better option in the next 24 hours (that's about how much time is left) and if so, how much?
The current bid is $119, and it's only had 4 bids since it was posted about 6 days ago.

Any help is much appreciated, thanks for putting up with my long winded posts and dumb newb questions.
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This is a long post, but please read and see if y'all can help me out.

I don't know a whole hella lot about scopes. I mentioned the last one I handled was about ten years ago, until last weekend. Well I guess maybe I just like my new carbine and it's Leupold so much that I completely forgot about the scopes for the rimfires I got about a month ago.

So what I've got right now at home is a Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10 on my new used CZ carbine.
A Simmons 8 point 4X cheapo on my son's Marlin 60.
A vintage Weaver Classic 400 USA on my own Marlin 60. Found that one in a junk store for $10!

I zeroed the Simmons on my Marlin but decided mostly for aesthetic reasons to move it to my son's rifle and mount the Weaver on mine. The only non aesthetic reason is that the Weaver seems to have a slightly shorter and less forgiving eye relief. Clarity seems equal to me, but the Weaver also matches my rifle better while the Simmons matches his better and I think it'll be easier for him to use. Neither have been zeroed since then, I'll be doing that soon, hopefully this week.

That's the absolute full extent of my experiences owning scopes. I can shoot, I'm a Marine Rifleman vet. I managed 1" groups at 100 yards with my CZ on our first trip to the range together. The adjustments are self explanatory, so zeroing is not an issue.
All other prior experience with a scope has been some buddy or another with a scoped rifle saying, "Here, try this out."
Last time that happened was 2004 in Afghanistan, when my squad's DM and I traded hardware on the range. He got giggles out of shooting a belt fed full auto, my M249 SAW, and I had fun TRYING to produce ragged holes with his SAM-R. Got real close, but no cigar.

So, now you all know my full history with scopes so you can understand better where I'm coming from with some of these stupid questions. The reason I'm going to scopes is the same reason lots of other folks do, I'm having trouble with irons. I just don't know much about what to look for in a scope.

I kind of have my heart set on that Leupold model I mentioned, maybe because I like my current one so much. But I'm also on a budget, which is why I'm looking at used scopes. I've bid on 4 so far, and have been outbid each time at the last moment.

So two questions.
The first is, what are some other scope brands and models that are equal to or better than the Leupold M8 2X that can be found new or used for less than $200?

The second question is, how big of a problem is this?

These are a couple of very small little dents, I suspect caused by over tightening scope rings.
It seems to be getting very slow and low bids and I'm wondering if those dents are the reason. So, is this acceptable damage on a used scope?

Should I place a bid if I don't find a better option in the next 24 hours (that's about how much time is left) and if so, how much?
The current bid is $119, and it's only had 4 bids since it was posted about 6 days ago.

Any help is much appreciated, thanks for putting up with my long winded posts and dumb newb questions.
Handgun scopes are a slightly different "animal" than rifle scopes in that there seem to be fewer manufacturers who cater to the market. Honestly, I cannot attest to brand quality comparisons, as I have only bought one handgun scope, the one on my Super. It was bought with the mount and sight-unseen from a gentleman on the other Ruger forum.

I don't think youll go wrong with the Leupold you're considering, as their quality has been consistent over the years, unlike many other brands. As for those marks, from your photo, they look cosmetic by, as you surmised, ring over-tightening. I'd hazard a guess that as long as the tube isn't crushed or dented, that scope will be unaffected.

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The seller describes them as "small impressions". To me, that means "dent".
I can see them when I zoom in, they look like they're just in the surface of the metal but not really crushing or pushing in the tube. If you look very closely at the line of reflected light, you can see a very tiny bit of waver along that line just below those marks. Well, I can. It's my money and I can't spare much of it so maybe I'm being a bit OCD.
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I found what I was looking for. Ale-8(1) was correct. After getting all screws started and the mount in final position you tighten the receiver screw first, then the yoke screw. My surprise was that the mount cost $47.00 OTD in 1986. That was a lot of money! I bought my SBH (1981 vintage) from the original owner 5 or 6 years ago with the mount still in its box.
That Leopold scope is probably the best you will find in your price range. Those "impressions" were under the rings and have to be really shallow scrapes caused by over tightening. I can't imagine how they could be deep enough to effect function, and they will be covered up again as soon as you mount it. Buying used off the web has risks, and I understand your anxiety. Good luck whatever you decide. I truly enjoy shooting mine, and am still learning every time it goes to the range.
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