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Old April 3rd, 2014, 09:48 AM   #1
 
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New Improved LC9 & LC380 Trigger Kit

I just installed the new Saints Arms Trigger Kit for the Ruger LC9 and LC380. The original Saints Arms kit, from October 2013, was not good and just plain would not work right. This new kit just came out a few weeks ago, and it is much improved. First the quality of the parts are far superior to the original kit, they are well machined and heat treated. Second the parts are just drop in, meaning take the stock parts out and replace with the new parts. There is no adjusting or reworking the parts. The results reduce the pull a little over 1/4 inch and moves the break point forward over a 1/4 inch.

I do think this new kit could be improved even more. The Owner of Saints Arms told me he is planning on making a new trigger, with adjustment for over-travel and likely take-up. With that trigger, the trigger movement would be reduced another 3/8 inch more that current trigger kit. That would be a big difference with only about a total of 1/2 inch of trigger pull, from at rest to full stop at the end of trigger travel.


This first video shows the results of the Saints Arms Trigger Kit Install. The kit is for sale on eBay, search for LC9 trigger kit.

In the second video, it shows the results using the Saints Arms hammer and instead of using the supplied trigger bar, I used a modified LC9 trigger bar, where I drilled a new pivot hole and file fit the tab. These are easy modifications.

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Old April 5th, 2014, 07:24 PM   #2
 
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The LC9 doesn't require a lot. Tighten up the action a little and move the break forward some and it's perfect. The Saints Arms kit on eBay is the solution. And for $35 you get a bar and hammer. I'm just surprised Ruger hasn't figured this out.
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Ruger was well aware of the original LC9 trigger kit, by Galloway Precision, and Ruger quit selling the hammers and trigger bars to Galloway, so he could no longer modify them. The problem was that Ruger would also sell them through the shopruger website. They not only cut off Galloway's supply, but also stopped selling them to the public.

The Saints Arms trigger kit has a new designed hammer and trigger bar, designed to shorten the trigger pull length and also move the break point forward, so the break no longer happens near the rear of the trigger guard. Much better than the stock trigger pull. This is an inexpensive, but high quality kit. You still have the stock parts, so at any time to can revert your LC9 to stock condition, but I doubt you would ever do this, once you use the Saints Arms trigger kit.

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Do any of the kits make the trigger pull lighter or just make the pull shorter? I have a 324*** LC9 & my understanding is that being a newer model, it has a different factory spring installed to prevent light strikes.
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I believe Galloway is trying to lessen the stacking (blocker lifter spring) and his kit comes with a lighter mainspring. But I wouldn't want to lighten the pull too much given the shorter hammer travel. There may be lighter main springs on the market but as far as I know Ruger only sells the one spring. The lc9 doesn't have that heavy of a trigger to begin with.

This pic shows the pre-travel, pull (1/2 inch), and over travel. The second pic shows the hammer just before the break. Avery nice SA staging or final stacking, whatever, I like it




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I do think this new kit could be improved even more. The Owner of Saints Arms told me he is planning on making a new trigger, with adjustment for over-travel and likely take-up. With that trigger, the trigger movement would be reduced another 3/8 inch more that current trigger kit. That would be a big difference with only about a total of 1/2 inch of trigger pull, from at rest to full stop at the end of trigger travel.


This first video shows the results of the Saints Arms Trigger Kit Install. The kit is for sale on eBay, search for LC9 trigger kit.

In the second video, it shows the results using the Saints Arms hammer and instead of using the supplied trigger bar, I used a modified LC9 trigger bar, where I drilled a new pivot hole and file fit the tab. These are easy modifications.
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As I discovered, the SA kit was not designed to be used with the rtk trigger. It will function with the original trigger bar, not a bad pull actually. But I now prefer the original trigger with the kit. I barely notice the take up. Even my Kahr cw9 has the same take up. A more robust trigger spring would make it feel part of the pull maybe.

It has been mentioned that Saints Arms will add a groove for the trigger spring. I would say it's not necessary; the bar is thicker, and there is already a slight groove from the manufacturing process. I will probably clean up the area where the spring rides.

The only other observation is that when the internal lock is engaged, the trigger is still disabled but it cannot be pulled completely back. I don't use it so it doesn't matter to me.

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Yes the trigger bar is wide enough that the spring can not slip past, The owner of Saints Arms is still going to put the groove in the bottom of the trigger bar to retain the spring. He was going to raise the price, but changed his mind. It is a steal at only $35, which includes the new hammer and new trigger bar.

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I just ordered the second generation kit, will post up after install and range time.
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LC9 v LC9s

I see Ruger has created the LC9s with one of the improvements over the LC9 is a shorter trigger pull. My question is - can the current LC9 and LC380 be modified to the same shorter trigger pull and break point?
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I put a Galloway kit in one of my LC9's and was the extreme opposite of impressed. Major problems and very little support. Never did manage to get a better trigger pull and ended up selling the LC9 along with original parts and the trigger kit. The buyer never got the kit to work right either. I still have one stock LC9 and might just order one of these Saints Arms kits IF I don't traded it in on an LC9S.
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I just joined this forum a couple days ago and have already learned a lot about Rutgers. LC9 is my every day carry pistol but I didn't know anyone made a trigger kit for the gun. Now I can't wait to get one. Thanks guys
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The best part of the new striker fired LC9 will be the end of these garbage trigger kits. Why anyone ruins a good gun instead of learning to use a DA trigger is lost to me.
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The best part of the new striker fired LC9 will be the end of these garbage trigger kits. Why anyone ruins a good gun instead of learning to use a DA trigger is lost to me.
My thoughts exactly. I like my LC9 as it is. I have no problem with someone wanting to modify their gun, but it usually ends up being sold along with the parts that are not standard. The new owner then gets a bad attitude towards the maker of the gun. I believe in buying a gun set up the way I like it from the factory.
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saint arms

I installed the saint arms trigger kit in my lc9, It would not function. reinstalled the stock trigger bar and it worked fine,slightly shorter pull. probably just leave it alone now.
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