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Old November 15th, 2012, 06:09 PM   #16
 
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I found 2 more burs last night when I took my SR 9 apart. I bought some files and goin to try and file them off. Hope it works .



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Looks normal to me, but I'd definitely try some FrogLube. If that's low round count, it looks like there's some undue wear - nothing that would affect the gun, but still a little disconcerting.
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got to the range today and still having problems.1rst time i racked the slide a case got stuck under the firing pin and didnt chamber,i ejected that case.then the 2nd case didnt fully go into battery,i ejected it instead of pushing the slide forward.then it ran good through 8 mags,including 1 box of tula.9th mag had rem UMC and got a stove pipe again.finished the UMC in 2 more mags no problems.this was a fully detail cleaned and lubed with the peened bers filed off.

have had a few of the problems where the slide isnt going into battery with out a little push.this has only happened 1 time while shooting it but a few times when chambering a round manually.didnt bring the camera,wish i would of.

when racking the slide i can hear and feel a pop.right at the point the barrel locks into battery.is that normal?

not alot of problems for 150 rounds but im not impressed yet since we have other guns that has never had a problem ever.but my 10/22 was flawless.put around 150 rounds though it to.
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sr9 problems

here is some more info on my problems.http://rugerforum.net/maintenance/62...-question.html

sorry for the lack of knowledge,makes it harder to describe things.

after some FTE and FTF problems.maybe 3-4 of each with in 300 rounds or so.FTF usually happen when manually cocking it,only happend 1 time when shooting and i just simple pushed the slide into battery,then it was ok.i thought maybe the recoil spring isnt strong enough or not letting the slide slam shut when manually cocking it or that barrel peening problem.after wiping it down,visual inspection,some dry firing,i noticed if i dry fire it with the mag in then cock it,it gets stuck about 1/8th inch before closing,similar to the FTF incident .all FTF is just a hair off of going into full battery.and i can push it closed,but i noticed it makes a pop/click noise when doing in empty(i didnt notice at the range)and i can see the striker does not cock back.i have to release the slide,push it forward manually until it pops,then cock it again to make it work again.
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got to the range today and still having problems.1rst time i racked the slide a case got stuck under the firing pin and didnt chamber,i ejected that case.then the 2nd case didnt fully go into battery,i ejected it instead of pushing the slide forward.then it ran good through 8 mags,including 1 box of tula.9th mag had rem UMC and got a stove pipe again.finished the UMC in 2 more mags no problems.this was a fully detail cleaned and lubed with the peened bers filed off.

have had a few of the problems where the slide isnt going into battery with out a little push.this has only happened 1 time while shooting it but a few times when chambering a round manually.didnt bring the camera,wish i would of.

when racking the slide i can hear and feel a pop.right at the point the barrel locks into battery.is that normal?

not alot of problems for 150 rounds but im not impressed yet since we have other guns that has never had a problem ever.but my 10/22 was flawless.put around 150 rounds though it to.
I'm confused. Exactly what do you mean by a case got stuck under the firing pin? Was the bullet up and the primer side down? At an angle? Got pictures?

Also, how and when are you hearing a pop when the barrel goes into place? If you're racking it and letting the slide fly forward, as you should, you shouldn't hear anything. If you're doing it slowly, that might be the reason for your jams. And a "pop" right before it goes into battery would be normal as that's when your barrel locks into place.
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I'm confused. Exactly what do you mean by a case got stuck under the firing pin? Was the bullet up and the primer side down? At an angle? Got pictures?

Also, how and when are you hearing a pop when the barrel goes into place? If you're racking it and letting the slide fly forward, as you should, you shouldn't hear anything. If you're doing it slowly, that might be the reason for your jams. And a "pop" right before it goes into battery would be normal as that's when your barrel locks into place.
top of the case hit the bottom of the pin.bullet was in the chamber.FTF.dont see why the pin was sticking out tho.other FTF is similar minus the fire pin catching,slide just doesnt close into with out help,stays open bout 1/8 inch.

made another thread on it.might give a better idea.sr9 problems
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top of the case hit the bottom of the pin.bullet was in the chamber.FTF.dont see why the pin was sticking out tho.other FTF is similar minus the fire pin catching,slide just doesnt close into with out help,stays open bout 1/8 inch.

made another thread on it.might give a better idea.sr9 problems
Ok, if you're firing pin was sticking out, then you've found your problem I can't imagine you're missing or have a broken firing pin spring, but it's not impossible. What is likely is that the firing pin chamber is gunked up. They often come this way from the factory, unfortunately. I've linked a YouTube video on how to do this. It's not nearly as hard as this guy makes it look, especially if you have the right size punch. I think it's an 1/8". Just make sure this is really clean and you don't really need to lube it. Lube will cause it to gunk up again. It should be cleaned about every 3 - 5 cleanings.

If your striker is gunked up, that would cause your firing pin to stick out.

Good luck. PS - limp wristing an SR9 or SR9c will cause them to jam. Make sure you're not doing that and your wrist doesn't bend when it recoils.

PSS - I recommend and use FrogLube. It's a great cleaner, lubricant and protectant and it leaves your gun and gun parts feeling dry. It does not attract dirt and gunk and can be used on your striker. Just let it set on the parts a few minutes, make sure they are warm (around 100) and wipe it off really good with a cloth or patch. Info on Frolube is at www.froglube.com. It's all I use now for all of my guns and it makes future cleanings a snap.



Ruger has a better video of the striker removal, cleaning and reassimbly at http://ruger.com/products/sr9c/extras.html
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i cleaned the striker out but it still gets stuck open like this.



at this point the fireing pin is sticking out.pushing the slid makes it click shut.then it is fine.put a mag in and dry fire makes it stick out again.

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i cleaned the striker out but it still gets stuck open like this.

... at this point the fireing pin is sticking out.pushing the slid makes it click shut.then it is fine.put a mag in and dry fire makes it stick out again.
What I'm seeing in your pictures as you describe it is normal. Remember, the SR9/9c are striker fired pistols. They do not have a firing pin, per se. A firing pin like in a 1911 is struck by the hammer, it's the primer and retracts. On the SR9/9c, the striker is released when you pull the trigger. It is reset when the hammer slides back, either by it's own action or by pulling it back.

So, your striker doesn't appear to be the problem. I think mine would stick partially open like you show in you first picture when it was brand new. I've fired 1000+ rounds through it and use FrogLube. I can't get it to stay in that position.

Does it do this if you pull the slide back and then let it slide forward on it's own? If it does, that is not normal. It should return fully into battery, but this might happen if you don't let go of the side when it's returning.

So, if it is sticking partially open by itself, it's hanging up on something. Have you tried different magazines? Does it do that on an empty magazine? You might need to either send it into Ruger and let them look at it or have a gunsmith look at it. I know you said you bought it used, but a phone call to Ruger still might help. I think I could figure out what it was if I had the gun in front of me, but I've gone over most of the things I can recommend online.

Does your slide, slide freely or is it kind of rough? I saw the barrel markings on your other post but didn't see anything that looked like it would be an issue to me.

If you could let someone else shoot it that is familiar with them and see if they have the same problem, that might help

If it were mine, I'd clean it and lube it with FrogLube. FrogLube makes your gun parts much more slippery than oil based products. I noticed a world of difference between my SR9c and SR40c from when I was using my old cleaners and clp to how they are now. But if your gun is clean and has some sort of lilght lubricant on it, It shouldn't be jamming. What ammo are you using? Mine doesn't see to care what I use but I've heard from others that certain brands don't work well wth them.

Sorry I couldn't be more help.

Good luck!
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it is hard to describe what it is doing in words.it feels as if it is hanging up on something when you first pull the slide back(1/16 inch back),then move smoothly,then hangs up just before it goes into battery.i thought it was the barrel from the bers but the barrel 'rattles" freely at that point,until the barrel locks up.if i just move the slide back and forth at that 1/16 inch travel you can hear and feel it poping.shouldnt it be a smooth motion racking it back,like say a XD?


i was playing with the striker when i had it out and it seems really stiff in the back.like it locks up on the cocked indicator end.the piece that retains the spring on the pin/indicator that it is on, what seems to be a tampered rod,feels like it hangs up on the taperd end.the striker may be that "hang up" i feel when racking the slide.

the pic is showing it held open by the striker some how.force the slide forward and something clicks/pops,the striker moves back into place.dry fireing it with the mag in is how i got to do what it did at the range.if mag isnt in on dry fire it doesnt do it(mag safty catchs it).pushing the drop safty in and mag safty in with the slide off,letting the striker move forward will do the same thing,put the slide on it hangs up same way untill i force the slide forward.

i have to give a little force or pull the trigger to field strip it also.it hangs up a little at the same point.really wish i could fondal a working sr9 to know if what mine is doing is normal.

i think it might have to go back to ruger though idk how that will go.i didnt buy it new.bought it from a gun show dealer as used.wouldnt i have to pay an ffl to receive it back from ruger also?
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it is hard to describe what it is doing in words.it feels as if it is hanging up on something when you first pull the slide back(1/16 inch back),then move smoothly,then hangs up just before it goes into battery.i thought it was the barrel from the bers but the barrel 'rattles" freely at that point,until the barrel locks up.if i just move the slide back and forth at that 1/16 inch travel you can hear and feel it poping.shouldnt it be a smooth motion racking it back,like say a XD?


i was playing with the striker when i had it out and it seems really stiff in the back.like it locks up on the cocked indicator end.the piece that retains the spring on the pin/indicator that it is on, what seems to be a tampered rod,feels like it hangs up on the taperd end.the striker may be that "hang up" i feel when racking the slide.

the pic is showing it held open by the striker some how.force the slide forward and something clicks/pops,the striker moves back into place.dry fireing it with the mag in is how i got to do what it did at the range.if mag isnt in on dry fire it doesnt do it(mag safty catchs it).pushing the drop safty in and mag safty in with the slide off,letting the striker move forward will do the same thing,put the slide on it hangs up same way untill i force the slide forward.

i have to give a little force or pull the trigger to field strip it also.it hangs up a little at the same point.really wish i could fondal a working sr9 to know if what mine is doing is normal.

i think it might have to go back to ruger though idk how that will go.i didnt buy it new.bought it from a gun show dealer as used.wouldnt i have to pay an ffl to receive it back from ruger also?
What you're describing sounds pretty normal to me but I can't tell without seeing it.

A you rack a slide, there are three things that get activated. The striker, the magazine disconnect and the striker blocker. I suspect what you're hearing and feeling are these three items being set. I have an XDm45 4.5" and an XDm9c 3.8" and yes the SR's do feel and sound differently than the XDm's.

Have you had anyone else shoot the gun you know to be good with guns? I mentioned the "limp wrist" before. This isn't an insult, it's a common cause of jams if the person shooting let's the force of the recoil bend their wrist while shooting. This will cause exactly the jam you're describing. The other parts sound like the normal operation of the slide on an SR9 or 9c.
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i just dont believe in the "limp wrist" theory.maybe myth busters will do a show on it.
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i just dont believe in the "limp wrist" theory.maybe myth busters will do a show on it.
It happened with me one and it was on my SR9c.
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Mine is just like that, its just from such a tight fit. once it does that, its basically done, in 500 rounds mine looked just like that, and i swear it hasnt changed since then and it has 1000's of rounds through it now.
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