Fltrainer

Jack D, thanks for the kind words, it was a labor of love and I'm not done yet.

I'm going to try JB Weld first, I found a thread in AR15 site several of the poster used JB and have no complaints, one guy has his sight on for 10 yrs.
There was no mention of handguns, these people are trap and skeet shooters where they'll fire up too 30 rounds in rapid seccession with no problems.

I'll take the chance and see where it goes, hopefully it'll work out and if not I'll solder it.

I'm also undecided if I want to leave the muzzle square or chamfer it, I have to make up my mind before doing the sight.

BRL

The pics. show a lot of detail, I can live with the size.

Looks like that was a quality insert install.

Yea I like the transition from the barrel to the muzzel to be rounded and also the bore itself slightly recessed from the face.

So was there a pin under the sight base?

That would make a good product testimonial..." We JB welded this front sight to the barrel of this here .44 Magnum and..."

Think my pictures come out the same size as yours...

Fltrainer

I'm glad you like them....Lord knows I tried.

The insert was installed when I got the SBH in 79 by my GS Cliff, he did some very nice work... but took forever doing the job.

The was a pin.

Today I did some research on JB in other gun forums there were guys who had their sights JB'd on going on 10 to 15 yrs., it's all in the metal prep.
I'll give it a try and see how it goes...if it don't workout I solder it on. Maybe I should buy a spare just in case I can't find it when it decides to take flight.

Ya know BRL this is the second time you've dangled... awe cheez, now two works-of-art in front of my nose, what have I done to deserve such treatment?

later

brimic

Nice looking work

BRL

You called them works of art...who could resist?

Sounds like the JB just might work, that should save the bluing if done carefully, I would think.

Fltrainer

Thank you brimic, remember you came up with the carriage bolt idea; whether you came up with the idea yourself or from someone else. I woudn't have given it a thought.

BRL, some people call Picasso's abstract art works-of-art; those guys can put that crap where the sun don't shine. IMHO those pieces you keep dangling in my face are works-of-art.... they're beauties. No toro caca!

Yeah, I'll give JB a try, I've read some good reports. Like they said its all in the prep.

Once I align and outline the F/S I'll dig little grooves in the bbl. with my Dremel to give it a good bonding surface. The bluing I'm not really concerned with, I have plenty of Oxpho blue (creame) left over from the last job I did, it does a great job if you follow the directions.

BRL, actually, I was thinking of drilling the bbl. and reinstalling the pin, that would definitely give the JB more stability.... Hmmm.

I'll post the pics when its done..... later

BRL

I would without a doubt reinstall that pin, even if you shortened it slightly so you don't worry about drilling the barrel too deep to accept it.

Ruger puts it in there even though they use a stronger method of attachment than epoxy...44 mag. remember.

I put a light coat of paint on the bottom of the sight base, positioned it carefully where I wanted it, and the paint left a "print" of where that pin hole was going to be.

If it was going to be a little off, I would have enlarged the hole to move the sight a little bit, and let the (silver solder in my case) fill in any gaps around that pin.

I would carefully use some sandpaper to rough up only the area on the barrel where the sight would attach, (why remove more bluing than necessary) also use some sandpaper to scratch up the underside of the sight.

Degrease throughly before attaching, and see if that puppy is gonna hang on!

Fltrainer

BRL, I'm looking at the bbl. stub I cut, the pin is slightly listing to port depending how you hold it. I sort of knew the pin was there but had a senior moment when I was torching and trying to pry/knock it off... I bent it. That pin is tighter than a crabs ass.

I was on Single-Action site with tek4260 in an earlier post of his he drilled, tapped and countersunk the F/S just behind the blade and attached it to his SRH, also in the same post he added four small pins to the top of a F/S to build up its height.... sight-in problem I guess.

Here's my idea instead of drilling & tapping (great idea) I drill small holes along the length of the bbl. that's covered by the sight for the JB to get a bite into? I could even do the same to underside of the F/S itself; what do you guys think of my brainstorm? I won't do anything until I get an opinion on this, it sounds good too me but..... let me know guys I want to do it this weekend.

BRL, I like the paint job!

Wait till I show you how I'm going to align the F/S since my stripe is gone from the top of the bbl.

later...

Jack D

What is the pin? Roll pin? It is probably silver soldered in. Heat the FS like you did to get it off the barrel, then maybe it will come out. What will you replace it with ?

Maybe you can drill the barrel oversize so that the pin will allow the FS to seat properly.???

Maybe it can be straightened?

Grind it off flush then drill it out??? This would depend on what the pin is (how hard it is).

Grind it off flush, drill a new hole and insert a new pin.???

BRL

[QUOTE=Fltrainer;746511]BRL, I'm looking at the bbl. stub I cut, the pin is slightly listing to port depending how you hold it. I sort of knew the pin was there but had a senior moment when I was torching and trying to pry/knock it off... I bent it...QUOTE]

I would angle the pin hole just like it was, and replace the bent pin with the shank portion of a drill bit that is cut to the same legnth or slightly shorter.

Fltrainer

I took the sharp muzzle look out, with a very subtle radius. I used a 3/4" deep socket; I cut medium emory clothe into 1 1/2" squares and held in place with my hand, I pushed the muzzle into the socket and turned 180 deg. each way until I reached the radius I liked.

Here's a pic"



Let me know what you think...

later.....

ZommyGun

Lookin' good...

I like your idea with the socket...

BRL

I think it looks real good from what I can see.

I used my thumb to press the sandpaper into the muzzel/bore, while hand turning, and achive a similar result.

Now let me ask you this...

...is that crown still concentric???

...remember that piloted crown cutter we were talking about earlier...

When you glue the sight on (with the pin installed) you could wrap the works with tightly wound electricians tape (10-15 wraps or more) and leave it overnight.

Makes a great clamp, take it from Macgyver here.

Fltrainer

Good morning BRL, and whoever else maybe up, its 0609 hrs here in FL. and what am I doing; answering your post and having a cup of joe. I'll answer your questions in the order you typed them:

Yeah, the the radius is very subtle, if you compare it with an earlier pic you'll see the difference it doesn't have that sharp edge/angle. It'll look better when its all dressed up blued and the sight in place.

The socket hole with the emory stuffed into it made it much easier on my delicate hands.

Yeah, the crown is concentric, it may not look it possibly due to the angle of the camera or flash. I still have to do a little polishing on it.

Here's post 68 third paragraph; let me know what you think....

"I drill small (shallow) holes along the length of the bbl. that's covered by the sight for the JB to get a bite into? I could even do the same to underside of the F/S itself and forego installing the pin; what do you guys think of my brainstorm"?

NOTE: I want to try out my new cobalt bit set by drilling alot of holes.

Guys, mostly BRL, I know what you're thinking..... "OK, a-hole if you're going to drill holes for the JB why not drill one hole for the pin" am I right?

NOTE: Guys, as you have read in some of my posts I kid around alot, its my way of venting off stress, anxiety and all that other mental crap (I'm sure you guys have it too but may handle it differently) but, this is my way so please bear with me.... Thanks Carl Sorry for the rant.... right

Ya know the tools that Brownells and Midway sell are great if we were going to do smithing for a living, but, for us guys on the forum I find it amazing what we can do with basic hand tools, a little ingenuity, and a lot of input from youse guys out there....

Where was I, yeah, gluing the sight and wrapping it with electrical tape...
Macgyver, I'll use this Gorilla duct tape I have that should work great. I'm not sure I'm doing the pin, with he JB I think I'll have more latitude if I screw things up than with the pin.... I think.

later.... have a great day guys

BRL

Good morning yourself I'm 3hrs. behind you in WA.
I don't know what kind of shear strength JB has compaired to its clamping strength, but I have used a drill bit in the past with success.

You have the skill to install a pin...your choice.

If you wrap ele. tape tightly around itself in a band, its clamping strength increases dramatically, far tighter than Gorilla tape can, because of its elasticity.

Try it on something and see what you think.