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Old November 9th, 2016, 04:28 AM   #1
 
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Question about bluing stainless

I have a high polish stainless Vaquero. Can the be given a professional blued finish? Thanks for your input.



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Old November 9th, 2016, 09:49 AM   #2
 
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Hot blue, cold blue, DuraBlue, lots of options available. Including trading it for a blued version.

If you're set on bluing stainless, make sure whomever does it knows what they are doing. Brownell's Oxynate 84 is made for this.

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Get a blue tones ceracote for durability and ease of application
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I have straw colored stainless using heat, not sure if bluing is possible. Bought some high dollar stainless steel blackener from Caswell that was a total waste of money. Tried it on a spare stainless Vaquero hammer, all it did was roughen the finish and wiped right off.
I would think it would be cheaper just to buy/trade for a blued Vaquero than go to the expense of trying to blue one.
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I have straw colored stainless using heat, not sure if bluing is possible. Bought some high dollar stainless steel blackener from Caswell that was a total waste of money. Tried it on a spare stainless Vaquero hammer, all it did was roughen the finish and wiped right off.
I would think it would be cheaper just to buy/trade for a blued Vaquero than go to the expense of trying to blue one.
Not to mention lessening the value if you ever trade it in.
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I asked Ruger about this and they said "We do not alter the finish or caliber of any Ruger firearm. We do not refinish a stainless model to blued finish".
So, the hunt is on to buy a blued Vaquero 45colt.
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I asked Ruger about this and they said "We do not alter the finish or caliber of any Ruger firearm. We do not refinish a stainless model to blued finish".
So, the hunt is on to buy a blued Vaquero 45colt.
A wise decision on your part. Your stainless is much more valuable and desirable they way it is.
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If your after the benefits of stainless, IE: no rust, why not go with ceracoat or duracoat that's as close to a blued finish as possible??

Yes, it will diminish the value, so if it's a gun you plan on selling sometime in the future, then....

Guess my question would be... why did you purchase a stainless gun if you wanted a blued one??

Just curious...
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Metal bluing is a method of producing a resistant coat of blue rust on carbon steel. Stainless steel does not have the same corrosion properties with the same bluing salts. You see many blued handguns that have stainless barrels and they're bright shiny stainless barrels, not blued. There a reason for it.
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Guess my question would be... why did you purchase a stainless gun if you wanted a blued one??

Just curious...
I got this revolver from my father-in-law.

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Stainless Steel cannot be blued in the traditional sense. Bluing is a controlled rust process that uses bluing salts to achieve a black or blue/black finish on carbon steel. It does not produce the same result on stainless steel.

Now, stainless steel can be blackened but the process is not traditional bluing.

Stainless steel has different properties than carbon steel. One of those properties is that stainless steel is far more rust resistant than carbon steel. Because of that resistance to rusting, stainless doesn't require a finish.
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Stainless steel is a rust resistant alloy containing nickel and bluing salts containing iron and other chemicals won't touch it.

I had a stainless barreled rifle and it went into the bluing tank for bluing of the chrome moly receiver and the white stainless came out sort of straw colored but not opaque or dark enough to match "coyote" color.

Experience with stainless fishing gear used in steamy hot salt water environments shows that stainless will rust.

If you want it blackened or greened or red or what ever coat it. A I plan to have some of my barrels coated like "coyote" color but not because I like the coyotes.
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What is the finish they were putting on the 77/22 VBZ??
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Good question TMan - it sure does not look ? like bead blasting - it might be some sort of coating
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The two best finishes I've seen on SS is the finish Ruger put on the VBZ'z and the finish on my M77 .223 SS Predator. I'd like to have my 77/44 "rain Rifle" bead blasted to kill the shine, and I'd love to put that Predator finish on my scoped 77/44.

Well, someone knows what it is. But it's not "bluing".
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