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Old August 18th, 2009, 07:07 PM   #1
 
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security six trigger pull weight question - long

Bear with me, I'm new to all this and wanted to fully describe what I did...

I've been going through the IBOK (thanks Iowegan!) and decided to go ahead and check end shake, timing, and trigger pull weight on my newly purchased 72 security six.

Not having an official trigger pull weight tester, I decided to use the string and weight method.

I tied a loose loop around the trigger so that it hung down past the grips and parallell to the barrell.

I loaded a 5lb plate and the trigger budged some. I loaded a second 5lb plate and had a complete DA trigger pull before the weight had left the ground.

I removed one 5 and loaded a 2.5 and this weight held without cycling the trigger pull. I guess I'm looking at about an 8-9 pull?

My question: Will this result in failure to fire? It's a home defense gun and I've not taken it to the range yet - thought I'd get some opinions.

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69rangerman, The only way to really know is to test it with ammo or just live primers. Magnum primers are the hardest to detonate so if it goes bang in DA with them, it should shoot anything.
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Thanks Iowegan. I just saw a post several pages back on your pencil test and will try that as well.

By the way...you seem like a humble/modest person - but I have to say it's pretty exciting for a new member to get a response from the name I see all others deferring to. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and time.
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Finally range tested

For reference sake I thought I'd chime back in on the light trigger pull.

I went to the range Friday and fired my security six for the first time.

I started with a factory stock hammer spring and the polishing job per Iowegan. Very nice, very accurate. Dbl action put the lead in the same spot as single action.

I then switched to the "light" hammer main spring that "string tested" at about 8 pounds. Single action fired every time. Double action not at all.

Lessons learned? 1.Clean and polish (carefully) what you have first. The pull may seem heavy while you're handling the revolver in you living room with plenty of time to analyze every 16th of an inch in travel-but the reality on the range is that 12 pounds on the double action when smooth and controllable is barely noticeable when you're focused on your aim.

2. Don't go cutting on stuff unless you absolutely know what you're doing.

3. Security Six is my new favorite.
4. Ammo is expensive! Make every shot count.
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I'm new at this, but I have an issue with a used Security Six I just purchased. It is a great weapon, but I should have paid more attention to the light trigger pull, i.e., about 3 pounds and just to light for me.

Is there anything I can do to make the pull heavier or should I send it to Ruger for repair. I hesitate as I have bee told they don't have allot of parts for the SS and may not return it is they feel it is not safe.

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You can go to the Wolff spring site (Wolff Gunsprings - Firearm Springs for Semi-Auto Pistols, Revolvers, Rifles, & Shotguns) and order the 17 lb mainspring. I don't where you can get a stock trigger return spring (Ruger?). I assume at 3 lbs. you are talking single action pull weight. Here the trigger return spring would have more effect on the pull weight.
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Thanks and yes I was talking single action pull. I will investigate Wolf.
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Addendum on 3 lb pull

Normally, I would suggest looking at Numrich for a used stock trigger return spring but it appears they are sold out. If you keep checking http://www.gunpartscorp.com/ sooner or later some will turn up when they get some guns in to part out. Also, call Ruger and see if they have a spring they can send you. Never know, they might have one. Finally, a knowledgeable gunsmith might be able to change sear angle to increase the pull weight or change the tension on the trigger return spring.

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...Finally, a knowledgeable gunsmith might be able to change sear angle to increase the pull weight or change the tension on the trigger return spring.
You should never mess with sear angles to do something that a spring is designed to do. That can cause other troubles down the road.

Typically you can get springs that are lighter than, heavier than or the same as when the gun was built, both the main spring and the trigger return. Go to Brownells, Midway, or go straight to Wolff or one of the other spring manufacturers.
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You can always try Gunbroker Auctions for parts. Search Security Six trigger parts. They are always there. A good way to build an inventory of critical spare original parts.

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As Jeepsrule notes one can find parts on Gun Broker. I would also try Ebay as sometimes things turn up there, too. Wolff does not make a standard or extra power trigger return spring but does offer an extra power hammer spring. The standard weight spring per Wolff is 16 lbs for the mainspring and they offer a 14 lb reduced and 17 lb increased power one. At one time Bullseye made a spring kit for the Six Series with reduced weight springs but I don't know what weight it was but I think it was lighter than Wolff's. Perhaps, that is what is in the gun or someone took the cheap way out and clipped the existing mainspring to lighten the pull. They could also have modified the slot on the trigger housing where one end of the trigger return spring rests to reduce pull weight.

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