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Old October 28th, 2016, 06:25 AM   #31
 
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I love reading this stuff and thanks to the big guns talking here for writing so well. But I know my impatiences, impulse control and limitations so I am also thankful that Ruger creates mechanisms that can be built in mass by regular folks and still work good enough for a long, long time. It's a grand thing that the same gun can be perfected by you and used as is by chimps like me.



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Old February 7th, 2017, 03:30 AM   #32
 
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Iowegan,
Can you provide a link to a specific stone that you would recommend for doing this sear work, please?
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Triggernosis, The steel in the hammer is exceptionally hard. That means you need a good ceramic or hard natural stone to cut it. I use a hard Arkansas stone that I've had for at least 20 years. I bought it from Brownell's but don't remember exactly which one of even if their current products are the same. I do NOT recommend using a power tool such as a Dremmel. Even with a good hard ceramic stone, it takes a lot of strokes to make progress.

I think the one on top is similar to mine: http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-to...-prod9627.aspx

Don't forget the honing oil!

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For what it's worth . . .

I have several Old Model Ruger single-actions. All of them exhibit "standard Ruger trigger pulls" with a little creep. I have used these for many years and become used to this situation, recognizing that they are not "perfect" but are products I could live with. In answer to my earlier question, I had decided they were "good enough".

Then I bought a used gun that had been "slicked up" by someone, allegedly a "custom 'smith". Among the custom touches present was a trigger that was downright dangerous. It had essentially ZERO trigger pull nor any creep whatsoever. If you didn't make the effort to cock the hammer "firmly" it would easily simply release whenever it felt like it. Bad news. I bought the gun for a good price, recognizing that it needed help. I took it to a couple of alleged 'smiths who refused to deal with it. I considered returning it to Ruger for attention, but didn't think they'd like a couple of the other custom touches although they were not associated with function and thus not a "safety" issue.

Ultimately, I found a 'smith who handled the gun for a moment and said he could fix it with little effort and modest charge, explaining what the problem likely was and how he would attack it. I left it with him, and it was returned to me in only a couple of days. He had performed essentially what IOWEGAN described. And folks, let me tell you it has the absolute best trigger I have ever felt on any gun I've handled, bar none.

I'd not attempt this operation myself, but I'd certainly recommend it to anyone with a Ruger single-action, even if the trigger is "safe" as it is. You would not believe the difference.

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Iowegan, those are the stones I was looking at. I figured I'd also get one of the flat ones to smooth out the inside of the grip frame where the hammer and trigger rotate.

Is it a no-no for me to use wet/dry 600 or 1000-grit sandpaper backed by something like a piece of metal instead of using a stone?

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Triggernosis, Part of the procedure is to change the sear notch angle slightly. The other part is to make the sear surface as smooth as possible. You could use fine sandpaper to change the angle but I think it would add creep rather than reducing it. That's what hard stones do .... they remove a minute amount of metal while keeping the surface very smooth.
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Can you send me your contact info (e-mail) please so I can send you some pictures of my hammer and trigger to be sure I'm honing the correct places? I don' have a high enough post count yet to post a picture here.
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