Carelessness at the RangeThis is a discussion on Carelessness at the Range within the Gun Stories forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; Yesterday, I took my son shooting for the first time. We were the only ones at the range at first, the weather was perfect, and ...  |
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August 21st, 2012, 04:47 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Pennsylvania
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| Carelessness at the Range
Yesterday, I took my son shooting for the first time. We were the only ones at the range at first, the weather was perfect, and my son was about to embark and his shooting journey. We walked up to hang our targets and: BANG, BANG, BANG!!! Some idiot arrived, didn't put up a target, and started shooting at an old one. He was back at the shooting tables at the far end, shooting while we were hanging targets. (The tables are about 15 feet from the parking area, that is why he was able to arrive and start shooting so quickly.) Talk about a crappy first outing for my son.
Needless to say I was beyond mad. I went up to him and starting yelling at him. His response was just as bad as his reckless act, "I know what I am doing. There is no way I could have hit you. You were off to the side." Of course I colorfully told him that me and my son were forward of his muzzle and he was being careless. It resolved when he through up his arms in disgust and left. What a day. I wanted to share this to remind everyone to keep their head up and be alert. Take care, Frank. EDIT: Got off the phone with the game commission. (They are responsible for the range.) They took my report and will send officers to the range to check more frequently.
Last edited by tshark; August 21st, 2012 at 05:27 AM.
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August 21st, 2012, 04:55 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NY
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Just takes one idiot. Glad you an your son are ok. You can look at it this way your son got a valuable lesson.
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August 21st, 2012, 04:56 AM
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Screw Him,Get his plate # and Leave and report his ( Reckless Endangerment ) To Any P D local to this range,Charges of Menacing also come to mind ! Dont forget to tell The PGC also and give plate # so as to be on a watch list.
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August 21st, 2012, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Marine Division Two Screw Him,Get his plate # and Leave and report his ( Reckless Endangerment ) To Any P D local to this range,Charges of Menacing also come to mind ! Dont forget to tell The PGC also and give plate # so as to be on a watch list. | Would also like to know what range this was as for other members to be on the caustious side if they see him !
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August 21st, 2012, 05:03 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: wayne nj
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When a range does not have a range officer it is the people present that need to control each other. Was it a private range or public. If private he should be reported tot eh range board or whatever it is called if public a call to the police is in order.
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August 21st, 2012, 05:05 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: northern Wisconsin
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A knucklehead stunt like that at our range would get reported to our range president and that guy would have gotten the boot. Our range is very strict about such things. Sorry you had to experience that.
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August 21st, 2012, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Marine Division Two Would also like to know what range this was as for other members to be on the caustious side if they see him ! | Sure, it was the Archbald public range. In hindsight, I should have gotten is information but when he left, I shifted my attention to my son to see if he was shaken up or anything. Luckily he wasn't sure of what was really happening. I used it as an opportunity to give him a safety lesson. I am going to look into joining a private range.
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August 21st, 2012, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Marine Division Two Would also like to know what range this was as for other members to be on the caustious side if they see him ! | Forgot to mention, I almost forgot about the PGC. I am going to give them a call and give them a heads up. At the very least they can stop by and check it from time to time. After the fact, I have heard of similar incidents there. At the very least, they can stop by and check for the range permits.
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August 21st, 2012, 05:19 AM
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#9 | | Jaded James
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At my range there are always range officers present during normal hours. If you are a keyholder with after hour access you are required to let others know you are there.
This guy should be kicked out the range for sure.
Glad you are both okay.
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August 21st, 2012, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bwinters When a range does not have a range officer it is the people present that need to control each other. Was it a private range or public. If private he should be reported tot eh range board or whatever it is called if public a call to the police is in order. | Yes. it's important to try and make sure that dude doesn't injure or kill someone.
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August 21st, 2012, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jtiv19 At my range there are always range officers present during normal hours. If you are a keyholder with after hour access you are required to let others know you are there.
This guy should be kicked out the range for sure.
Glad you are both okay. | Thanks. I just want to let everyone know this is a public range. Normally when more than one person shows up, someone will take on the role of being a range officer for safety. We were the only ones there when this yahoo showed up...we didn't even see him until he started shooting. (we were down range hanging up a target)
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August 21st, 2012, 05:33 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: USA
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Wow. And I thought the people who fail to raise the Hot Range flag at my range were bad.
That is some seriously knuckleheaded, dangerous behavior
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August 21st, 2012, 05:42 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Willamette Valley
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At our range, someone will be reading you the riot act if you case or uncase your gun during a ceasefire.
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August 21st, 2012, 05:53 AM
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Several people were firing at the range I use when two men arrived, started putting their gear at a shooting station and then proceeded to walk out to hang targets while everyone was still shooting. Out of the corner of my eye I spotted them and yelled "Cease Fire" at the top of my lungs. (There is no range officer at this place)
Evidently they thought no stray bullets would veer from targets and hit them. I say "evidently" because neither of them spoke a word of English, and I do not speak spanish.
Several of us left immediately. If they are that dumb, I didn't want to be around when they started shooting.
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August 21st, 2012, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jaxrider14 Several people were firing at the range I use when two men arrived, started putting their gear at a shooting station and then proceeded to walk out to hang targets while everyone was still shooting. Out of the corner of my eye I spotted them and yelled "Cease Fire" at the top of my lungs. (There is no range officer at this place)
Evidently they thought no stray bullets would veer from targets and hit them. I say "evidently" because neither of them spoke a word of English, and I do not speak spanish. Several of us left immediately. If they are that dumb, I didn't want to be around when they started shooting. | That's the wise move. I go my local (private) range daily so I generally can tell if those around me are regulars or occasional shooters. If an occasional shooter happens to be there and is being less careful than I would like I just bag it and come back later. If anything truly unsafe occurs we police ourselves and then get the RO involved (usually not present)
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