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Old April 25th, 2017, 04:59 PM   #1
 
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3rd time in my neighborhood in about a year, 3 different kids. I'm walking down the street with my 2 birds dogs and the GF, working off supper and getting some energy out of the dogs.
Some little kid(s) sees us coming, stops playing, takes careful aim, sights down his plastic toy gun at us and/or our dogs and acts like he is taking aim and shooting us.
GF tells the kid it's not cool to do that, and with evil little grin, he does it again. I tell him it's not cool to do that and he is alittle jerk for doing it. Kids mom is across the street on neighbor's driveway, and says nothing.
I know it's a plastic gun, but what happens when he finds a real one at a friends house or relatives house, or some dummy takes one from home to school, and points that in the wrong place. What happens when kids point real looking toy guns at LE? Knew a coworker with one eye due to someone fooling around with a gun and pointing it at other people as a joke.
Parents should do some explaining to kids about this when they buy a kid a toy gun, we do in our family.




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Old April 27th, 2017, 03:04 AM   #2
 
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Sounds to me that you are a bit uptight . I remember doing that all the time when I was kid ( back in the late 50s ) and a lot of guys would grab their chest as if they had been shot . Some would even take their finger and shot back . Guess what they had a new friend . Instead of having the reputation as the neighborhood grouch , and yes I knew the difference between a toy and a real gun . Perhaps a better way would have been to play cowboy's for a minute and then turned that into a teaching moment . Just saying .
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I understand your point and it is a difficult decision when to teach god gun safety and not come off like a jerk. i have not done this well at times.
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Fine line when not your kids. I would only tell them once not to point toy guns at anyone and leave it at that.
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Having grown up playin Cowboys and Indians, I'd just put a hand on my chest, and say ow, you got me.
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You called the child a name? I think this whole scenario needs a do-over.
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Having grown up playin Cowboys and Indians, I'd just put a hand on my chest, and say ow, you got me.
+1

Teaching kids to recognize the difference between real vs imagination is also important. Unfortunately, some adults working in school administrations never learned this.
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Teaching kids to recognize the difference between real vs imagination is also important. Unfortunately, some adults working in school administrations never learned this.
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Lighten up , stop looking for things to be outraged about .
"Oh , you got me , good shot" and smile....walk on . Makes for a much nicer life.

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People are too uptight about everything these days. Years ago I'd play along, but today I am not sure. It would all depend on the situation and environment.

One thing I do know for sure, I certainly would not call him any names. Adults are above that and should be the example. Nothing was learned from this experience except the adult acted like child.

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Thanks for your feedback. Has not changed my mind, but thanks the same. A LE officer and 2 veteran brothers, plus the GF, most with kids, agreed with me. If your kid acts like a jerk, after being told not to do something in a nice way by an adult, then I got no problem letting him know in a stern way. Didn't curse him. Might seem harsh to some, didn't faze the kid, dont think he will need counseling.
You have a right to your opinion, that's why this was posted, to hear it. Respect that. I got my opinion too. You have a right not to like it. You have a right to raise your kid the way you see fit. If I live in the same world as him, and I disagree with his actions, I got a right to comment on it.

Back when I grew up there was not 5 shootings, some accidental, in my area, on the news everyday. Every morning and every night it seems now. It is common now, most of the time it's kids. Just happened accidentally last week around here again, kids involved, one dead, makes me feel sick. Another 2 instances of elementary kids taking daddy's gun to school a few weeks apart.

We will continue to raise kids in our large extended family not to point guns real or fake at real people. That is step one. We will also teach them to safely handle bb, pellet, and real guns in a safe way. If they don't, if someone ever tells me, neighbor, brother, kids friends parents, they did not follow our instructions we will take the toy or real gun away and they will hear about it loud and clear, as a 1st step. Then we will go from there based on response.

Again thanks for the feedback. Will keep it in mind next time.

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If the kids were OBVIOUSLY playing cowboy & indians in a good natured game, ,, I would have probably played along.

If there were some circumstances where I thought the kid was doing it out of hatred for race, etc, or just plain spoiled rotten brat stuff, I would have totally ignored him and walked on.
I would refuse to feed the monster. Its no fun for them if they get no reaction. And thats what they are looking for, a reaction.

If you have a house of undisciplined brats in the neighborhood, find a new place to walk or take a different route.

We put up with a group of 4 absolutely intolerable brats about a 1/2 mile away for three years. The parents were worse than the kids.,So obviously not the kids fault. The parents would scream the F word at the kids, and the kids would scream it back. The kkids ran from about 2 to 8 years old. Nothing could be done but to NOT feed the monsters. People called the cops, CYS, and in the end, they done nothing. Thank God they finally got throwed out by sheriff order for not paying rent and they moved back to town.

Good luck. I feel for ya. Been there, did that.
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Was not cowboys and Indians. Seemed like shoot that car, shoot that dog, shoot that guy, etc.. Not running around chasing each other, just hanging out sighting down on stuff. That was playing to them. This was not time #1, it was the 3rd time, 3rd different part of the hood and 3rd different kid.
We are running out of alternate routes to walk the dogs between other dogs running loose, usually a pit or mix, or sketchy areas, or car drivers not actively driving their cars while in motion, etc".. I hear ya on the best left alone angle. Got neighbors that have frequent LE visits and used to have ankle monitors.

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Your absolutely right you have the right to your opinion ,this is America and I will fight for your right to be wrong .
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Probably just harmless play from kids. But teach them well or someone else will.

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I think I have to agree with the OP on this one. He was there, we weren't and he seems like a reasonable guy. I don't think I would have called the kid any names, but I certainly would have let him know that it was unacceptable. People have to learn accountability, at any age, and apparently his mother was not going to teach him. This is not the 50's or 60's anymore when that kind of behavior was accepted and not seen as any kind of a threat.
Heck, nowadays if a kid points his finger in the shape of a gun, they put the school on lockdown! It's a new world and not necessarily a better one, better to learn while they're young.
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