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Old January 17th, 2010, 03:32 PM   #1
 
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Accidental discharge!!!

Is there a thing such as an accidental discharge??? I think NOT! Any what does anyone else think? My finger is my safety. I don't like guns with "safeties"!



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Old January 17th, 2010, 03:49 PM   #2
 
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Yeah, I do.

Last week I was shooting my single six. had my gun pointed down range, cocked the hammer back, put my finger started to aim, and wham, I sneezed. Gun went off.

The question that should be asked is "is there such thing as accidental gun handling." The answer is no. I sneezed 3 minutes before that and the gun was loaded but, the gun was looking down range, finger out the trigger and the gun wasn't cocked. no big deal.

People are shot accidentally because a gun was pointed at them. Thats not an accident.



3 years old my friend when out west to go praire dog hunting. Be brought 3 rifles but liked his .220 the best. He shot that gun the best and the most. It was about 100 degree that day and after shooting about 50 rounds straight, he loaded number 51, had the gun '' down range'' setup on the target and wham, gun when off. The round "dieseled". (went off without flame or spark). Accidental discharge. Yes. Excellent gun handling. No one got hurt.

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Old January 17th, 2010, 04:29 PM   #3
 
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I agree with that. .357's discharge was accidental, but not "negligent". That's the difference.
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Old January 17th, 2010, 04:55 PM   #4
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I also had an AD. I had a DPMS AR that had issues w/ FTE's. I spent more time forcefully ejecting rounds by hand than actually shooting the thing. At some point or another, I must've either removed the mag to try and clear a jam with an unfired round still in there, or had a premature slide lock w/ one more round in the mag. One of the final things i do before I leave the range is remove all my mags and pull the trigger back with the gun pointed down range. Well, I had already taken off my eyes and ears when I did this. Imagine my surprise when I pulled the trigger w/ no hearing protection. Boom! Ears rang for days. But, that's exactly why I made the double check and did it w/ the gun down range. Only thing in any jeopardy was my hearing. On that note, I now leave my ears in when doing my double checks too.
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Old January 17th, 2010, 06:29 PM   #5
 
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Been there too!

I once ordered in 5 Romanian SKS rifles for a customer. We completely cleaned and re-assembled the rifles and took them to the the range. I took the first rifle to the line, put in a fully loaded 30 round mag and charged the rifles. As I let the bolt fly forward this is when I had my AD! In fact it was 30 AD's!!! One right after the other!!! Talk about a shocker!! Houston, WE HAVE A PROBLEM! Oh yea! I didn't even squeeze the trigger.

Apparently there was an issue with this rifle and it went full auto. Good thing I had it pointing downrange. When we were done that day 3 of the 5 rifles were defective. One of them would shoot bursts of rounds and the other 2 would empty the mags as soon as I dropped the bolt. We discovered the pins that held the firing mechanism in place were made with very soft steel. They were loose and would allow them to malfuction. How they went full auto was beyond me but I didn't keep them long enough to find out. I didn't have my SOT so I sent them back.

I got in touch with my distributor and explained to them what happened. They told me to send them all back.

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Old February 9th, 2010, 07:30 PM   #6
 
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I once ordered in 5 Romanian SKS rifles for a customer. We completely cleaned and re-assembled the rifles and took them to the the range. I took the first rifle to the line, put in a fully loaded 30 round mag and charged the rifles. As I let the bolt fly forward this is when I had my AD! In fact it was 30 AD's!!! One right after the other!!! Talk about a shocker!! Houston, WE HAVE A PROBLEM! Oh yea! I didn't even squeeze the trigger.

Apparently there was an issue with this rifle and it went full auto. Good thing I had it pointing downrange. When we were done that day 3 of the 5 rifles were defective. One of them would shoot bursts of rounds and the other 2 would empty the mags as soon as I dropped the bolt. We discovered the pins that held the firing mechanism in place were made with very soft steel. They were loose and would allow them to malfuction. How they went full auto was beyond me but I didn't keep them long enough to find out. I didn't have my SOT so I sent them back.

I got in touch with my distributor and explained to them what happened. They told me to send them all back.

I've got an SKS as well and had a slam fire when I let the bolt go to chamber a round. It only shot the one, but I had a few more double shots that day as I'd pull the trigger once and two bullets went down range. Well, I took it apart and I found an interesting bit of history. Apparently from 1945-1950 when it was first introduced to the Russian army there was a return spring on the firing pin, but with the onset of the Cold War, mass weapon production, and the Chinese copying the design (with money in mind); by 1951 it had been converted to a floating firing pin. So if there is any lubrication in the bolt the pin will stick a little, either firing an extra round or firing a whole magazine if it's really stuck. The solution? New firing pins for every SKS in the house. We're still trying to find a time to go test out the new pins, but I'm putting the link here for anyone else who's had this problem SKS Owners
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Old February 10th, 2010, 02:15 AM   #7
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There is accidental discharges. You cannot shoot a gun without it being loaded. If you drop a loaded gun some can fire. You don't drop a loaded gun intentionally but you can accidentally drop one. The reason I'm saying all this is that I dropped a old model Blackhawk that didn't have the firing pin block and the hammer hit the floor and it fired and went in my leg above the knee and came out at my hip.
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I think the "accidental discharges" are attributed to weapons that when accidently dropped fire rounds off and while these are uncommon because usually a recall has taken care of these they do start somewhere.
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There are differences between "accidental" and "negligent" discharges, IMO. Several of the above posts are good examples of accidental discharges. A good example of a negligent discharge is as follows. During my deployment to Iraq in 2004, I witnessed an officer, who failed to clear his M9 Beretta correctly, fire a round into a clearing barrel outside of the dining facility. This is exactly what these clearing barrels are for, but that firearm should not have had a round in the chamber after entering the main post. Another incident happened where a Soldier fired a round through the floorboard of her vehicle because she failed to clear her weapon properly. This incident was also a failure of her immediate supervisor because they obviously didn't do a proper inspection of the chamber of her weapon upon entering the front gate to the post. Just a few examples that I believe are good examples of "negligent" discharges.
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Dang Calvin! I don't even want to think about that.
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