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Old July 18th, 2016, 09:22 PM   #16
 
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In Army boot camp years ago a fellow recruit pointed his M14 at me. I told him that was inappropriate (language was different) at which point I turned to leave him. I heard the click of the hammer falling on an empty chamber and I felt the hair on my neck, or something,I turned and saw the rifle aimed at me.
This fellow was on the top bunk I grabbed the rifle and pulled, he came off the bunk the bunk fell on him as he hit the floor. Either the fall or the bunk broke his arm,I thought I was going to the stockade as I was an acting Sgt. and had "hit" an enlisted man. I graduated with my Company,he went to the Infirmary then started his 8 weeks over again.




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Old July 19th, 2016, 06:37 PM   #17
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A few years back I once walked into my local gun shop and was greeted by a customer pointing a shotgun right in my face. Apparently he was shouldering the gun to see if it fit him and pointing it at the front door that has all the glass covered up with stupid ad posters and didn't see me about to walk in. Not a very warm welcome, but he seemed pretty apologetic about it.

In general I HATE my local gun shop simply because the guys behind the counter look and act like they haven't hit puberty yet. I have nothing against immaturity in general, but there's a time and place for it and running a gun shop is NOT one of them!
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I'm going to make an extremely unpopular statement but I stand by it. If you handle enough guns over your lifetime you WILL inadvertently sweep someone. I don't care how hard you try to avoid it given enough opportunity it's going to happen. It's easy to be 100% correct 10 times. It's impossible to be 100% correct 1,000 times. If, like me, you've handled a firearm 200+ days @ year for 40+ years you WILL at some point inadvertently sweep someone. That's just the way it is and no one is immune from it. That's why we have 3 other gun safety rules (i.e., keep your finger off the trigger) so that when you do inadvertently sweep someone the other safety rules prevent a catastrophe. I'm not excusing it but I'm not sitting on my high horse like I've never done it either.

When someone sweeps me I try to ascertain whether it was unintentional or stupidity. Unintentional doesn't bother me. Stupid does. YMMV.
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In Army boot camp years ago a fellow recruit pointed his M14 at me. I told him that was inappropriate (language was different) at which point I turned to leave him. I heard the click of the hammer falling on an empty chamber and I felt the hair on my neck, or something,I turned and saw the rifle aimed at me.
This fellow was on the top bunk I grabbed the rifle and pulled, he came off the bunk the bunk fell on him as he hit the floor. Either the fall or the bunk broke his arm,I thought I was going to the stockade as I was an acting Sgt. and had "hit" an enlisted man. I graduated with my Company,he went to the Infirmary then started his 8 weeks over again.
IMO, It takes kinda a WEIRD/CREEPY person to do something like that.

We had a trainee in boot turn around with an M60 at the range one day and intentionally point it at a group of guys and verbally go BAP BAP BAP BAPP.
The range was hot with plenty of belts laying around. I remember seeing this and thinking WTH ?

A SFC standing nearby ( a 101st AB Vietnam vet and great guy) jerked the 60 off him, then very EXPERTLY butt stroked him with it, knocking the guy down flat on his back. Im not sure where he hit him, but he dropped him like a wet dishrag. They found brass in his locker a couple days later. He disappeared and we never seen hide nor hair of him again. I dont remember hearing what they did with him.

We were all glad he was gone. I dont think his suitcase was packed too tight.
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I remember a young punk was brought to deer camp by the son of one of the regular guys. Brash and full of "it", just listening to him talk made you want to get up from a comfortable seat by the fire and go sweep out the cabin or clean up the outhouse, anything to get away from him. During a mid day break at the cabin I ran into "the kid", and asked him if Joe was in camp. Joe was the Camp Honcho who actually had the lease and we all subleased from him.

The punk says "I think that's him way down there coming across the field", and picks up his loaded rifle (7 mag of course) and proceeds to look through his scope at the orange vest about 400 yards away! I snatched it out of his hands and yanked the bolt back, and sure enough, a round hit the ground. I lost it, called him every kind of dumb, well,......... I was still giving him crap about it when Joe walked up.

As soon as he heard what has happened, the kid was packing up his gear, and we never saw him again. I think I heard later that he was raised by a single Mom, and was never really taught how to handle firearms, which is still no excuse, but it makes me think that a lot of today's young people may not know how to handle themselves around firearms for similar reasons. They are everywhere you look!

We need to be diligent in teaching those around us that don't know the rules of safe gun handling. I fear that many are beyond hope however. Stay alert and stay safe.
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I'm going to make an extremely unpopular statement but I stand by it. If you handle enough guns over your lifetime you WILL inadvertently sweep someone. I don't care how hard you try to avoid it given enough opportunity it's going to happen. It's easy to be 100% correct 10 times. It's impossible to be 100% correct 1,000 times. If, like me, you've handled a firearm 200+ days @ year for 40+ years you WILL at some point inadvertently sweep someone. That's just the way it is and no one is immune from it. That's why we have 3 other gun safety rules (i.e., keep your finger off the trigger) so that when you do inadvertently sweep someone the other safety rules prevent a catastrophe. I'm not excusing it but I'm not sitting on my high horse like I've never done it either.

When someone sweeps me I try to ascertain whether it was unintentional or stupidity. Unintentional doesn't bother me. Stupid does. YMMV.
To go along with that, it would not really bother me if I were somehow muzzle swept by a handgun that was holstered, snapped in, and that the wearer didn't have his hand on, like what happened to MackC85. But I would *not* want to be standing behind someone while they were drawing from a horizontal holster like bwinters described.
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I get muzzle swept every time I walk past my safe.
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At the range, they only do it once.
They then get to pack up and go home for some thinking time.
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Only at a local gun store by a mall ninja.
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An old Lady had to look at every Shotgun on display and was sweeping them around the store . I gave the Clerk a very concerned look when one was pointed in my direction , He politely took it away from the Goofy Old Broad
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I had this happen at a Cabela's here. I was looking at handgun ammo and I walk into the aisle next to me and there's a guy sighting in a rifle pointed right at me! I let out an obscenity or two and immediately went and talked to the manager at the gun counter and pointed out that they need to be a little more aware of that kind of thing. He apparently didn't like my tone or something, and basically defended the guy saying it was my fault for walking into his line of sight! So I have yet to ever go back to Cabela's nor do I plan to ever again. L.L. Bean is better anyway!
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