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Old April 27th, 2017, 07:49 PM   #1
 
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Defensive Revolver Class

Well, this most recent trip to Frontsight I decided to run a wheel gun, and by am I glad I did. It was an amazingly fun experience and it was eye opening. In the end, my junky, antiquated, low capacity, hard trigger pull, slow to reload revolver outperformed 36 semi autos and I earned a 93% on the shooting/skills test and took home a Distinguished Graduate certificate, allowing me to move on to advanced classes. In 3 times taking this class before with semi's, i never came close.

I would be happy to answer any questions about the class, but over 4 days you run around 600 rounds. Almost all shot by drawing from concealment. Defensive shooting scenarios, controlled pair, head shots, a shoot house, multiple targets, etc. Fun times!












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Were you using the gun in your avatar? Sounds like good fun training.
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I carried a 4 inch service 6 for many years as my defensive handgun at my business had to point it at 2 people who tried ot rob me neither one said oh a revolver I aM NOT IMPRESSED.
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I am glad to read of your success! Right now, I only own 4 Rugers . . . all wheel guns. 2-SP101's, a Redhawk .44mag and a Single Six.

I am in love with revolvers! Maybe the nostalgia, perhaps the feeling of dropping rounds in through the gate or with speed loaders, I just find something most satisfying to my well being. I am looking to purchase a higher capacity autoloader (just looking now) but I am in no hurry.

My only single action, the Single Six convertible, is perhaps the most fun to shoot for me.

I am interested in this course you took. There is nothing like that here in Florida (that I know of), Maybe you can explain a little more about it and perhaps a link.

Thanks for the thread and the pics. Congratulations!
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Were you using the gun in your avatar? Sounds like good fun training.
Nope the avatar is a pic of my old SP101 DAO that I sold years ago. This class was run with a 1897 vintage S&W Model 65, 3" Round butt, AKA the service revolver issued by the FBI up until they moved away from wheel guns.
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I am glad to read of your success! Right now, I only own 4 Rugers . . . all wheel guns. 2-SP101's, a Redhawk .44mag and a Single Six.

I am in love with revolvers! Maybe the nostalgia, perhaps the feeling of dropping rounds in through the gate or with speed loaders, I just find something most satisfying to my well being. I am looking to purchase a higher capacity autoloader (just looking now) but I am in no hurry.

My only single action, the Single Six convertible, is perhaps the most fun to shoot for me.

I am interested in this course you took. There is nothing like that here in Florida (that I know of), Maybe you can explain a little more about it and perhaps a link.

Thanks for the thread and the pics. Congratulations!
You can check out frontsight's website for your self, their marketing is a little....agressive. I picked up a lifetime membership several years ago for a few hundred bucks. Due to their business model many members have memberships they can sell and wont cost you very much. At that point you can take classes for the rest of your life, the only cost to you is a once per year $50 background check, if you take a class during that year (its not like a recurring fee or membership fee).

I see alot of people poo-poo the training they offer. I dont see why, they train thousands and thousands of people every year, and turn them into more competent, safer, more responsible firearms owners. It may not be the most cutting edge tactical operator ninja delta force type stuff, but its solid.

Here's my quick description of the course:

The course consists of fairly basic info. Firearms/range safety, proper trigger control, sight picture, stance, grip, presentation from the holster, are all covered in day one. They also teach the "controlled pair" as the proper response to a threat which needs to be fired upon. From there, the class covers reloads (tactical and emergency), as well as malfunction clearances (type I: click, type II: Failure to eject, type III: failure to extract/double feed). We also go over failure to stop drills where a shot to the cranial ocular cavity is necessitated.

All of this is gone over during days 1 and 2, with numerous drills both dry and live fire. Day Three includes more drills, reviewing the test, learning some very basic tactical movement, opening doors clearing rooms and hallways, etc, and also a trip through the shoot house which is a ton of fun.

Each night after class and during lunch there are lectures to attend on situational awareness, tactical movement, ethical and social ramifications of shooting, etc. Good material that applies to the range classes as well.

Day 4 consists of shooting the test course of fire live, then dry, then actually doing the test. After that, it's "fun" stuff like learning how to handle multiple adversaries, hostage shots, and at the end, a man vs. man competition on steel which is always a blast.

For those of us who want to, all of the class is performed FROM CONCEALMENT. To pass the test, you MUST use a concealment garment. LAter in the class they start adding the time pressure, which really

Its a basic class, but the fundamentals are there and its great. Its always very eye opening and you can always learn more and gain experience. Alot of first timers and a good number of folks who have done it before.

The class requires roughly 600-700 rounds of ammo for most folks. I went dry a little each day and only fired off 500ish. I ran 158gr .38 spl.
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Sounds like an enjoyable class. I'm a wheel gun man myself, so it doesn't surprise me to hear about the capabilities of your six shooter. At classes that I have attended, any jamming and feed problems were with the autos.
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I love my 66 4" and it is probably my go to carry gun more often than not...what kind of grips are those?
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I love my revolvers, and I carry them. It sorta depends on my mood 1911, or revolver.
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I love my 66 4" and it is probably my go to carry gun more often than not...what kind of grips are those?
I love my 66 no dash but its got that awful serrated trigger.

The grips on both are by VZ Grips.
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I'm planning on doing that course one of these days. The only problem I have with them is, according to their website info, they don't allow reloads.

Although I do own semi-autos, my favorite sidearms are my revolvers, and that's what I choose for my everyday carry.

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I love my 66 no dash but its got that awful serrated trigger.

The grips on both are by VZ Grips.
Thanks for the info on the grips. A little judicial Dremeling and Emory cloth got rid of them on mine. The trigger shines like chrome and is smooth as a babes arse now.
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I love it when a revolver guy kicks butt against the hordes shooting 9mm bottom-feeders. It sounds like a good class teaching solid information. Congrats on being Distinguished Shooter. I love your rig, especially your custom Kydex and VZ grips. I love my M65LS (Lady Smith) as I can roll off accurate double-action shots faster than with any other revolver I own. Someday I'd like to upgrade mine with a holster and grips like yours.
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I'm planning on doing that course one of these days. The only problem I have with them is, according to their website info, they don't allow reloads.

Although I do own semi-autos, my favorite sidearms are my revolvers, and that's what I choose for my everyday carry.

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Correct no reloads. Ive seen people kinda sneak in gun show reloads but I have had enough issues with those that I don't buy them anyway. You can find ammo cheap locally in pahrump, Ammo Supply Warehouse - In Stock Bulk Discount Ammo has great prices
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Thanks for the info on the grips. A little judicial Dremeling and Emory cloth got rid of them on mine. The trigger shines like chrome and is smooth as a babes arse now.
My trigger is not stainless it's chromed as it's an early no dash. So if I grind it it'll remove the coating
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