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Old March 24th, 2013, 01:44 PM   #1
 
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Guns as an investment?

Do you consider a gun purchase as an investment?

Are you thinking it will hold its value or increase in value?

Which are investments? And which are not?

Is a SR1911 an investment? And a SR22 a great gun but will never make money?

Or, are they all just purchases you play with and not a consideration for their long term value?

Just random question as to how we think?



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Old March 24th, 2013, 02:03 PM   #2
 
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Do you consider a gun purchase as an investment?

Are you thinking it will hold its value or increase in value?

Which are investments? And which are not?

Is a SR1911 an investment? And a SR22 a great gun but will never make money?

Or, are they all just purchases you play with and not a consideration for their long term value?

Just random question as to how we think?
I never plan to sell any of my guns. I buy them for the best price I can find, and consider them an investment in my life (for recreational purposes and/or self defense).
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I have no firearms that aren't worth more now then what I paid for them. Now if you want to play the 1917 dollars value adjusted for inflation, I don't want to play. But I do consider my firearms as more than an investment.
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If the asteroid (or some other "s") hits the fan, your investment will suddenly be worth 25 times what you paid.

Priceless, actually.
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An investment in safety. I have several guns and have only sold two over the years. I think it's better to just keep adding to the collection. I know that many of my guns have almost doubled in value, but since I'm not selling, it doesn't matter.
When I pass, all my stuff will be auctioned and proceeds given to the NRA.

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I would think that short term the value drops considerably going for new to used.

Over time if maintained in excellent condition as the price of the same or equivalent gun increases the value of your used gun would also increase. Will this ever exceed what you paid? Maybe or maybe not especially when adjusting for inflation.

In some rare case if you happen to have something that becomes desirable to collectors then maybe. I would speculate that there will always be a larger pool of potential buyers for any version of a 1911 than an SR22.

I tend not to sell things and only own two firearms at the moment but I could potentially see there coming a day when I decided to sell a firearm. I would expect to get a fair price at the time of sale. I am not expecting or banking on some tremendous increase in value.

Then again it might not be hard to imagine "investing" in guns by purchasing a gun every so often just to stock away for a rainy day and then having a desirable commodity to sell. But would expect this to be more of a way to earn some money to pay bills sort of thing than a massive sell off to fund retirement for example.
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Glocks are a bad investment. I bought three in the early 90's all Gen 2's, then they came out with the gen 3 and 4, making the older ones nearly worthless it seemed. Should have sold them at the beginning of the AWB in 94 or 95. Finally did get my money back and put it in single action Rugers. They have character dripping from them, Glocks have none.

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I plan on dying owning all of mine so it doesn't matter it they are worth $1 each or $10,000 each. But in a SHTF situation I can't use all of them and could barter for food, gas, and clothing.
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I know a lot of people with a lot of guns, but none of them have gotten rich off of the firearms they own or have acquired. The problem I think is that for a gun to really appreciate in value takes far longer than a persons lifespan. Look at the really big ticket items on some high end gun auction sites and you are looking at firearms more than 100 years old, and often from very rare and long gone places (like the middle east of 150-300 years ago, or the early NA frontier days).

Its a bit like collecting art - if you are buying with the idea of appreciation in mind, you need to be thinking of what you'll be leaving in your estate, not what you'll gain in your own lifetime.

As to your specific examples, no I don't see an SR1911 being an investment. There are dozens of equal quality 1911s on the market, and have been for ages. One is no more an investment than say, a BMW 3 series car would be, to my mind at least.

I buy my firearms because they appeal to me as defensive weapons, and for recreational shooting, and I don't expect to ever make money on them, especially since I have no intention of selling any.
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Guns as an investment?

I met a guy up here who throughout his adult life, collected Winchesters. He's retired, and lives primarily off of selling his pre-64 rifles. As of last year, he still had 75 left.
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This is highly disappointing information. I want to tell the wife I was doing it for her! That I bought another gun so she would be able to retire someday.

Anyone have a reason it is an investment? Please?!?!
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A firearm is one of the rare mechanical devices that retains value. In that sense they are a good investment. Buy it, use it, take care of it, and it will always be worth a certain amount of money. Maybe less than what you paid, but worth something. For example, a well cared for glock should always be worth $400, my sr-1911 should always be able to fetch $500 if I need it to. An expensive stereo will at some point be worth nothing. A gun will always have a value to someone. There are worse hobbies....and far worse ways to spend your money. They may not all appreciate in value, but there is a bottom dollar amount for every gun, even an abused gun that functions is worth $100.
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I don't buy firearms with the intention of selling them, but whenever I'm in the market for one I try to get quality or I don't buy/trade. In fact my SR9 is the cheapest pistol I own, not to say that it's low quality be any means. IMHO the SR9 is one of the best pistols for the money, even compared to ones costing a couple hundred more.

I've never sold a pistol for less than I've paid for it, partly because I'm on a budget & have usually had to wait for a good deal before I got it in the first place. I even have a few models that have increased in value because they've been discontinued or have become rare so in some ways firearms is a good investment.

I usually only trade about once or twice a year, but it's usually a trade up. For example, a couple years ago I found an original factory built Mossberg 500BP (Bullpup) in a pawn shop & got it for $250 out the door. I didn't realize what I had until I started getting offers for it in the $700-$800 range. I finally sold it & bought a used, but like new SIG P229 & Ruger Super Redhawk .44 magnum with some money to spare. It goes to show that guns are a good investment if you're a collector, but you probably won't get rich.
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Many centuries ago a powerful king was asked what is more valuable that which protects or that which must be protected. He responded that which protects. He was told than an iron sword was more valuable than bars of ggold he saw the wisdom of that argument. Guns are valuable because they keep everything else safe.
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They are certainly a big investment in my time.....
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