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Old August 13th, 2014, 09:42 AM   #46
 
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Self defense against what?

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Old August 13th, 2014, 03:47 PM   #47
 
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You. There are way more human's I am concerned about than bears in my neck of the woods. If I was in an area with Griz, this would be a different discussion entirely.

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You. There are way more human's I am concerned about than bears in my neck of the woods. If I was in an area with Griz, this would be a different discussion entirely.

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Understood. Well my opinion, if there is a *perceived deadly threat* from a human, he'll be very close, so you would point and shoot, deliberately count your shots, preferably from behind a sturdy barrier of some type. Taking aim would involve extending the gun away from the body, which takes time and
gives away any advantage you might have. This goes double if you are in your vehicle.
Civilians don't often get into prolonged "gunfights".

A fleeing bad guy is no longer a threat.

Lasers and flashlights give the bad guy a better aim point.

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Not so sure a red laser provides a very good aim point since it significantly reduces sight acquisition time for the one with the laser. By the time the bad guy finds my 5mm red dot, I hope to have him down.

I don't have a flashlight on my primary defense pistol for the very reason you offered. I don't plan on searching for bad guys in my house, but if I did, it wouldn't be with a fire attracting weapon mounted light.
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Not so sure a red laser provides a very good aim point since it significantly reduces sight acquisition time for the one with the laser. By the time the bad guy finds my 5mm red dot, I hope to have him down.

I don't have a flashlight on my primary defense pistol for the very reason you offered. I don't plan on searching for bad guys in my house, but if I did, it wouldn't be with a fire attracting weapon mounted light.
Try it sometime. Take your laser to the range in the dark. Fire a shot, then turn on the laser.


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Not so sure a red laser provides a very good aim point since it significantly reduces sight acquisition time for the one with the laser. By the time the bad guy finds my 5mm red dot, I hope to have him down.

I don't have a flashlight on my primary defense pistol for the very reason you offered. I don't plan on searching for bad guys in my house, but if I did, it wouldn't be with a fire attracting weapon mounted light.
Agree with you on the above. The route I've decided to take for In the Home, Wake up in the Dark to a Bad Sound Situations is the use of a small high intensity LED strobing flashlight with a pushbutton switch held overhead in the weak side hand. Figure I can locate an intruder's general position in the dark and know the layout better than him, get the pistol pointed in the right direction then blind him with the strobe and determine whether lethal force is called for.

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(So far it's worked really well on 'possums, haven't had one yet able to return fire)
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Both. I prefer sighted, but when you use the simulators you realize sometimes you hardly have time to find the sights.

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I practice both.
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Man...this is a very old thread..sure miss the avitar of a long lost friend that appears in this thread...

Since the old thread is active again I thought the included "old link" might be if interest....from many years ago.


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I have never been involved in an actual confrontation but I suspect if it ever occurs, draw to first shot time will be critical, and that is part of my practice regiment. If an advisory is “up close and personal”, my aligning the sights along with a strong two-hand grip would eat up too much life saving time, so strong-hand point-shooting practice is absolutely a necessity. Practicing point shooting with targets set at 3 yards, and using a timer to create pressure is part of my regiment. The 3-3-3 drill [3 rounds, 3 yards, 3 seconds] is a good drill to practice. I can accomplish the first 2/3rds of the drill, and to date I am close, but have not cracked the 3-second part. The drill begins with the pistol holstered and concealed.
I feel sight shooting comes into play when you have greater distance between you and your advisory, and the element of surprise is in your favor. I have some 7-yard drills I practice.
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At 7 yds. or less I point shoot, over 7 yds. would use sights. A lot depends on what the attacker is doing, one must be careful here and making sure that the threat no longer exists.
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A long time ago I was taught, "In a Fight...Front Sight!" Meaning, keep your eye on the target and bring the weapon (rifle, handgun, whatever) up into line with your intended target, putting the front sight in the middle of it and squeeze!

Obviously, while hunting, it's a slow, practiced, breathing-matched, gentle squeeze of the trigger...letting it surprise you!

I was a volunteer EMT for 25 years and have been in more than a few 'high-stress' situation and was always able to remain calm, focused, and perform very well in relation to the situation and following training.

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I would just as soon whack the bad guy from 500 yards away, but that aint always an option.
Make pointing 2nd nature. A split second can be the difference between going home, or going to the morgue.
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My wife and I practice both .
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Last fall I started teaching my wife point shooting in close also. As someone already stated, point or aim all depends on what the bad guy is doing ,how close the threat & how much time you have.
Ive practiced both religiously for years, and am trying to train my wife to do the same. With some practice, you'd be pretty surprised just how accurate one can be point shooting at 15 or 20 feet.

When the SHTF, you might end up doing both. I would aim shoot 1st if time allowed it.

Just dont make a you tube video shooting yourself in the leg trying to practice it on a quick draw.

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