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Old November 27th, 2013, 11:51 AM   #1
 
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Open Carry Videos on Youtube. Your opinion???

I was skimming through youtube a few days ago and I came across several videos that I find to be quite frankly disturbing. They videos consist of several people walking around crowded streets in cities and towns throughout the country to test law enforcement on the open carry right. In most of the videos the people are walking around with loaded AR-15's or other assault rifles and they wait until the police approach them and start filming to show they are exercising their 2nd Amendment rights. Most result in heated arguments with law enforcement and the people filming testing the police and going on and on about their rights. Most of the time I find the police to be responding to calls from citizens and to make sure that the person is not some nut that is going to shoot up the streets. But the people making the video think that just by the police questioning them that somehow they are being discriminated against and begin to cause a scene in public. So here's the question. Do you think the people in the video are in the right or are they grossly abusing the open carry right just to create confrontation. I personally find the people in these videos flat wrong and they are just doing it to agitate law enforcement. While I am a huge proponent of the right to carry and even open carry where it is allowed I am not a fan of people walking around with assault rifles in large groups of people just for the sole purpose of stirring up trouble. It makes people uncomfortable and the open carry laws were not intended to have this effect. It was for decent people to be able to carry in public, not walk around just looking for trouble so you can film it. I find people like this further damage CC laws and give good honest people who carry for the sole purpose of protection a bad rap. So whats your opinion if you have seen these videos? Exercising 2nd amendment rights? Or just plain causing unnecessary problems in public for citizens and law enforcement?



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Old November 27th, 2013, 11:59 AM   #2
 
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I like seeing people exercising their 2d Amendment right in a responsible manner.

I don't like seeing it done in a juvenile manner. I find the "in your face" folks childish.

The reason to carry a firearm is to defend oneself, simple as that.
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I agree LeMat. All the videos in my opinion do is show some jackass walking around trying to cause a scene in public so they can go on and on how they are right! I feel like those people cause more damage than good to the gun control issue in our country. Im a firearms enthusiast, a card carrying NRA member, have my CC permit, and feel every person in this country has the right to be able to defend themselves against threats of criminals and a corrupt government. But these guys I think are just flat wrong.
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I think the folks doing this are idiots giving us good guys a bad name. Realize what they are doing? Not carrying to defend themselves but carrying for the sole purpose of a police encounter
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If open carry is legal where they are, the police need to tell the callers they are not breaking the laws. People need to learn not to panic just at the sight of a gun and mind their own business if no laws are being broken. Just my opinion. Saw some good videos but there are a lot of people just being jerks and just want a confrontation.

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when someone is afraid of something, shoving it in their faces rarely makes it better
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mwnahas, your right, they are not breaking the law. But 9 out of 10 people would get freaked out if they saw someone walking around with a loaded weapon strapped to their backs. Hell if I saw it I would be on edge and have my hand on my gun just in case. We live in an era where at anytime someone could just start shooting. And this is why it frightens them, so they have every right to call the police because a someone is walking around with a gun. I think the point here is the people on the video are doing it for that very reason. To alarm people and get the police involved so they can start mouthing off about how they are protecting the 2nd amendment. I in no way agree with these people. Again, all they are are agitators who fuck it up for people like me who carry responsibly and who do it for the sole purpose of making sure in the event things go bad i can protect myself and my loved ones. They are idiots!
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If I was a cop and I saw someone toting a handgun, I'd probably take a minute or two to observe them and maybe say hello, see what they are all about. Not harass them, just some small talk. Many of the open carry videos are made with the intent to outright taunt cops. If the person making the video was not a total D bag and the cop gave them a hard time, I'd be inclined to cut the video maker some slack. Sadly though, too many of these videos are meant to antagonize LE, and lets face it. If you saw someone carrying and they were behaving strangely, you'd be a little wary.

People who open carry just to taunt LE and make videos for YT are jackasses. They cause more harm than good.
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People who open carry just to taunt LE and make videos for YT are jackasses. They cause more harm than good.
Absolutely.
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This is where we are from 30-35 years ago when we could almost all open carry our rifles without alarming the citizenry. To do it as a taunt to LE or your neighbor is irresponsible and hurts our cause. Those who think they're making a point by overzealously exercising their 2A even though they are in their right just provide fodder for the left.
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If I was a cop and I saw someone toting a handgun, I'd probably take a minute or two to observe them and maybe say hello, see what they are all about. Not harass them, just some small talk.
And if I were a citizen open carrying, I would engage you in civilized conversation that would most likely turn towards "gun talk".

Instead of the "am I detained? I don't have to answer your questions".... blah, blah, blah.

I'm not a criminal and I'm not breaking any laws. You ask nicely and I'll return in kind. :thumbup:

But we all know these guys are actually doing us a favor by teaching the police their job, right? :banghead:
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I agree LeMat. All the videos in my opinion do is show some jackass walking around trying to cause a scene in public so they can go on and on how they are right! I feel like those people cause more damage than good to the gun control issue in our country. Im a firearms enthusiast, a card carrying NRA member, have my CC permit, and feel every person in this country has the right to be able to defend themselves against threats of criminals and a corrupt government. But these guys I think are just flat wrong.
I agree wholeheartedly, there are right ways and wrong ways to get your point across, baiting the LEO's is not the right way to do it...JMHO
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If some guys want to open carry, that is fine with me. I'm not one of them, and prefer to carry concealed.

The open carry videos I have seen (and I haven't seen all of them), strike me as being just a little narcissistic. I know selfies are all the rage right now, but mixing it up with gun rights doesn't quite cut it for me.

Still, to each his own, I guess.
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I agree with what has been said here. Open Carry the way some folks display it is just bringing negative attention to the rest of us who do CCW. Might affect our gun rights as well & our 2 A rights we have enough problems already that we are having to deal with from our current administration. Right after the terrible New Town Conn. incident here in Utah on the news I can't remember the place but so obvious right out in public to bring the attention that has been discussed here a fellow had hanging over his back a AR15 walking around in the public turning heads! I guess if someone wants to do the open carry then they need to do so with more sense if thats possible! I love guns and enjoy hunting and target shooting and recreational shooting as well. Also have my CC permit but I only do CCW when I am in areas I feel I want the extra comfort if that makes sense to be able to defend myself if needed!
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I agree 100%....some are good, some give us all a black eye. I understand it is our right, but just because you can do something legally doesn't mean you should. Especially if it's all about drawing attention to yourself just to prove a point.

In this day and age people are scared. I fault the media more often than not for repeated misinformation and blatant disregard for the truth.
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