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Old March 24th, 2013, 01:24 PM   #1
 
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SC New open carry bill.

I am a little confused. Would this new bill allow everyone and anyone to open carry, or still require a license for open carry ?

And did it pass ?

S.C. Senate panel passes open-carry gun bill » Anderson Independent Mail



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S.C. Senate panel passes open-carry gun bill
By Kirk Brown
Anderson Independent Mail
Posted March 20, 2013 at 5:04 p.m.
COLUMBIA — South Carolina gun owners would be allowed to openly carry their weapons in public without a permit under a bill that a legislative panel approved Wednesday.

A state Senate subcommittee passed the measure despite objections from law enforcement groups, the South Carolina Association of Counties and the Municipal Association of South Carolina.

Jarrod Bruder, executive director of the South Carolina Law Enforcement Officers’ Association, told the subcommittee members that gun owners need “education, training and to go through the proper background checks.”

Under existing state law, gun owners must complete at least eight hours of training and undergo a background check to obtain a concealed-weapons permit. The bill that the subcommittee approved would eliminate these requirements.

Bruder said about 187,000 South Carolina residents currently have concealed weapons permits. “We don’t see that there is anything broken in that program,” he contended.

Allowing residents to openly carry guns could cause difficulties for law enforcement officers responding to shootings, Bruder said.

“It muddies the water, plain and simple,” he said. “We are going to look at anyone who has a gun and how do we know who the person is who is the good guy and the person who is the bad guy?”

Echoing Bruder’s comments, South Carolina Sheriff’s Association executive director Jeff Moore voiced “very grave concerns” about the bill.

Subcommittee Chairman Sen. Lee Bright, the bill’s main sponsor, responded to criticism of the measure.

“Government has killed way more people than guns have,” said Bright, a Republican from Roebuck.

His subcommittee held five public hearings on the bill before Wednesday’s vote, including one in Greenville last week that hundreds of people attended. Most of the speakers at those hearings expressed support for the measure.

“People are now here begging for their God-given, constitutionally backed rights,” said subcommittee member Sen. Shane Martin, a Republican from Spartanburg.

The subcommittee adopted a series of amendments before approving the bill.

Under these amendments, any person convicted of felony would be prohibited from possessing a handgun in South Carolina and employers would be permitted to keep guns out of the workplace.

The bill would allow business owners to post signs telling customers not to bring firearms inside. An amendment added Wednesday would prevent people from taking guns into courthouses, jails, police stations, government offices and churches. The same amendment also would not allow guns in election polling places, in day-care centers, in schools and at school or collegiate athletic events.

The Senate Judiciary Committee is expected to consider the measure at a meeting next month.
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As a New Jersy resident I cry to think no carry is legal in Nj.
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As a New Jersy resident I cry to think no carry is legal in Nj.
Nor Australia.
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My friend stated still will need a CCW license to carry concealed. that makes no sense if nothing is needed to carry open.
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Nor Maryland! Heck, they won't even let us get ccw permit because of the restrictive wording...
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We have open carry in North Carolina. With a few exceptions. Like the city of Durham. Every where else in the state you may legally carry as long as its OPEN. If your shirt comes untucked and accidentally covers part of your handgun - You better have your concealed carry permit.

I don't carry open mainly because of the reaction of the public and the subsequent hassle by the local LEO. Besides it may make you a target for the bad guys.
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Gotcha NCFJ40

Yea, me too. I rather carry concealed, and I will continue to get my license every 4 years.
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South Carolina's S.115 bill

The bill everyone is talking about is known as the "South Carolina Constitutional Carry Act of 2013". If I understand it correctly, at this stage it has been approved for future consideration by a SC Senate sub-committee. It has not yet been signed into law. There is another committee hearing scheduled for April 9th to further discuss the proposed law. I believe the next hearing is going to be in the Myrtle Beach area and it is open to the public and will allow individuals to speak out.

The law, as it is being considered now, will allow any SC resident that can legally own a handgun to open carry it in most places. It does not allow carrying in courthouses, jails, police stations, government offices, churches, election polling places, day-care centers, schools, bars/restaurants that sell alcohol and any other places that currently ban guns. It also allows places of business to post signs disallowing guns on their premises.

I personally would prefer this bill to allow open or concealed carry and leave the decision to the individual. I am somewhat nervous about open carry because of past personal experiences.

I had a NYS carry permit issued to me in the mid seventies that allowed me to carry open or concealed. My choice of a gun to carry a Colt Combat Commander in an outside belt holster that was usually covered by a shirt, jacket or windbreaker. On two occasions, I inadvertently allowed the gun to be seen. Once was in a liquor store when I clearly saw fright in the eyes of the store owner when he saw the gun as I reached for my wallet. It was in a not-so-good area and later I thought to myself that there was a strong possibility that this store had a past history of robberies. I could see a person like this becoming so frightened by the sight of a man with a gun that I could become an innocent victim. The other incident was at a gas station where I got the exact same reaction. After these incidents, I made it a point to carry a gun that was impossible to be detected by any one.

I think most people do get nervous if they see a citizen carrying an open gun and not wearing some sort of LEO uniform. It is just human nature to be frightened by the sight of a gun, especially with all of the sensationalized news in past years about tragic public shootings.

Just my humble opinion and sorry for the lond-winded post.

Incidentally, there is another South Carolina bill being proposed (S 308 - Restaurant Carry Bill) that would allow guns in restaurants that serve alcohol.
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I wouldn't get too excited...........we've had open carry forever up here, but hardly anyone does it, for fear of being planted face down on the concrete.....SAD.
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S.C. Senate panel passes open-carry gun bill » Anderson Independent Mail
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The bill everyone is talking about is known as the "South Carolina Constitutional Carry Act of 2013". If I understand it correctly, at this stage it has been approved for future consideration by a SC Senate sub-committee. It has not yet been signed into law. There is another committee hearing scheduled for April 9th to further discuss the proposed law. I believe the next hearing is going to be in the Myrtle Beach area and it is open to the public and will allow individuals to speak out.

The law, as it is being considered now, will allow any SC resident that can legally own a handgun to open carry it in most places. It does not allow carrying in courthouses, jails, police stations, government offices, churches, election polling places, day-care centers, schools, bars/restaurants that sell alcohol and any other places that currently ban guns. It also allows places of business to post signs disallowing guns on their premises.

I personally would prefer this bill to allow open or concealed carry and leave the decision to the individual. I am somewhat nervous about open carry because of past personal experiences.

I had a NYS carry permit issued to me in the mid seventies that allowed me to carry open or concealed. My choice of a gun to carry a Colt Combat Commander in an outside belt holster that was usually covered by a shirt, jacket or windbreaker. On two occasions, I inadvertently allowed the gun to be seen. Once was in a liquor store when I clearly saw fright in the eyes of the store owner when he saw the gun as I reached for my wallet. It was in a not-so-good area and later I thought to myself that there was a strong possibility that this store had a past history of robberies. I could see a person like this becoming so frightened by the sight of a man with a gun that I could become an innocent victim. The other incident was at a gas station where I got the exact same reaction. After these incidents, I made it a point to carry a gun that was impossible to be detected by any one.

I think most people do get nervous if they see a citizen carrying an open gun and not wearing some sort of LEO uniform. It is just human nature to be frightened by the sight of a gun, especially with all of the sensationalized news in past years about tragic public shootings.

Just my humble opinion and sorry for the lond-winded post.

Incidentally, there is another South Carolina bill being proposed (S 308 - Restaurant Carry Bill) that would allow guns in restaurants that serve alcohol.
Good info Lazy, thank you. Yes I hope they do both, I want concealed. If one still needs a permit for concealed so be it, i am fine with that. I don't care to carry open, not my preference.
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Sounds similar to Michigan. I have open carried, but prefer concealed.
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